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"Wilson Street, Nannup" rose Reviews & Comments
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I wonder if this West Australian foundling could be 'Assemblage des Beautes'? I had been mislead for years by my understanding that gallicas were fairly low but the height of Assemblage des Beautes' is up to 5 feet.
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16 NOV 18 by
 HubertG
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I grew 'Assemblage des Beautes' for many years, and looking at these photos I'm sure AdB could be eliminated as a possibility as an identity for this rose. AdB set hips, and somewhat oval ones. The flowers were more double than this rose. It was rather short for me and the stems very upright not arching. Just my observations having seen the recent photo posted.
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HubertG, I really do thank you for that advice. An American visitor recently advised me to look closely at the Geschwind roses and as yet, I have not had the time to do more than a quick skim through. I have his ‘Ziguernerknabe’ and ‘Gruss an Teplitz’, so it is quite on the cards that some of his other roses got here as well.
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OK, OK, the silence is deafening and has made me relook at ‘Malton’.
My foundlings do not have “foliage so finely tinted with red” as in the ‘Malton’ 1846 ref (apart from the red in the stipules that is); and it is not “an excellent seed bearer”, (1992 ref), despite me convincing myself that one hip in 12 years could make it so. My comment yesterday: “I have never seen any button eye or pointel” was generated by me looking at my photos. However, my data sheet for this rose says I have, at one time, seen both. I still believe this Western Australian foundling is not the same as “California Malton” as that has “fair rebloom”, and more prickles up top. The foundling has not survived in the heat of Renmark, Australia. In addition, I have found no reference at all in my Australian literature to ‘Malton’ or ‘Fulgens’.
Amen, start again.
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This morning I uploaded a photo of the only hip I have ever seen on my "Wilson Street, Nannup" foundling after 12 years. We do have very wet springs where I live and perhaps this plant may set more in dryer areas. This one hip has opened up the possibility of the foundling being 'Malton'. AmiRoses old picture of 'Malton' also shows corrugated leaves, similar to my photo, also uploaded this morning. The bloom is right, the colour is right, but the only thing that does not jell, is the old photo of Malton seems to show a narrow receptacle, whereas "Wilson Street, Nannup" has a wide-based receptacle.
My rose does not seem to be the same as the "Californian Malton" as I have never seen any button eye or green pointel in my rose. It has been a fairly common foundling in the cooler parts of the south west of Western Australia.
There are quite a lot of large gardens in the world growing 'Malton' and I am seeking advice please.
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This "Balingup Lane" founding seems similar to 'D'Aguesseau' but the receptacle is more pronounced than that of Paul's 1848 painting. "BL" is much taller as well.
[later edit]. No pointel or button eye as in 'D'Aguesseau' has been seen on "Balingup Lane".
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