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Discussion id : 120-035
most recent 30 JAN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 30 JAN by Emily White
Would Scepter'd Isle benefit from pegging? How much room do you think she would need?
Thank you for any advice!
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Discussion id : 117-936
most recent 10 AUG HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 AUG by Marlorena
This is one magnificent rose.. I can't relate to negative comments about it elsewhere... I've tried about 60 Austins down the years and this is in my top 5... prolific continuous bloom is correct, the scent is nearly always there, very strong if you like this type of scent... and never outgrows its welcome... about 5 and half foot by 4 foot.. supported by obelisk... a most graceful, floriferous rose that's a joy to see from any window or close up... also most photogenic.. the flowers open up eventually to reveal the stamens much loved by bees and hoverflies...

Health is pretty good... just a touch of blackspot here and there.. nothing else... what more can I say?...
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 9 AUG by Nastarana
Maybe it needs a temperate to cool climate. For me, in CA, it grew like Jack's beanstalk in every possible direction except underground. In a climate where, if I wanted a rampant bush or climber, I could have a Noisette, 'Sceptered Isle' didn't do much for me and did not flower enough to justify the space it took.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 9 AUG by Marlorena
I'm sorry it doesn't do well in your location... these days I like to choose what I feel sure will suit my garden...
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 10 AUG by Nastarana
I can well believe that a smaller bush with more profuse flowering than I saw, SI would be lovely.
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Discussion id : 105-868
most recent 4 OCT 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 OCT 17 by mamabotanica
Any idea how big this might get in zone 10? I've heard it can sprawl so I'm thinking of getting an obelisk for it and wonder if 7 ft would be tall enough? I found a bigger obelisk that is 7.8 ft and 21" diameter (and $60 more!). Any idea of whether I could get away with the smaller one (7 ft tall and 15.25 inch diameter).
Thanks,
Joan
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 4 OCT 17 by Nastarana
'Sceptered Isle' grows up, out and would probably grow underground if it could. There will be stalks from the middle of the plant rowing straight up, 5'-8', and other branches from the outside edges growing along the ground an equal distance. Very thorny branches, don't plant this one in the middle of a lawn. I took mine out because I simply didn't have room for it, and I found the flowers a bit undistinguished.
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Discussion id : 99-695
most recent 22 MAY 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 21 MAY 17 by happymaryellen
Anyone have this rose as a tree?? I am looking to add a couple of trees next year..thinking lady Emma and Scepter...anyone have this in a tree?
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Reply #1 of 9 posted 21 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I grew Scepter'd Isle as OWN-ROOT in zone 5a, but it got too big & vigorous, and I had to stake it. It was over 5 feet tall !! That would be twice bigger in a warm climate, and even bigger as grafted-on-Dr.Huey. Lady Emma Hamilton stays tiny as own-root for cold-zoners, so that would be more appropriate for a tree/standard.

David Austin catalog shows Scepter'd Isle as a tree-rose, but Austin roses are much bigger in a warmer climate like California, where there's no frost-kill. One summer the temp. here got up to 100 degree, I visited nearby rose-park and Jude the Obscure's bloom was at 6 feet tall, would need a ladder to sniff that. Abraham Darby was over 7 feet tall, thanks to the hot weather.
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Reply #2 of 9 posted 21 MAY 17 by happymaryellen
Good to know, our area, northern ca g ts quite warm. I am new to this, only two years...45 bushes, including seven austins....love them...so, probaby scepter would be too big to tree here perhaps?
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Reply #3 of 9 posted 21 MAY 17 by Andrew from Dolton
In my much cooler garden it grows as a 1 metre high bush. Despite getting blackspot quite badly it manages a couple of good flushes of flowers each year. My plant was bought directly from David Austin.
'Septer'd Isle' would be well worth a trial in your garden, on HMF it is reccommended for climates "USDA zone 5b through 10b". Grow 'Scepter'd Isle' in a place where you can easily enjoy the exquisite and unusual myrrh scent of its flowers.
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Reply #4 of 9 posted 21 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Austin roses' scent are best in cooler temperature. Scepter'd Isle scent is reduced to "dirty socks" scent in our hot summer. Roses are much bigger in warm climate with no frost-kill, I have 3 sisters in California, one in Fremont killed her roses since they compete with her young trees. I gave away my own-root Scepter'd Isle since it got too tall, and I had to stake it. It was very healthy in my alkaline clay, never see blackspots on that one.
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Reply #8 of 9 posted 22 MAY 17 by happymaryellen
Thank you!
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Reply #6 of 9 posted 21 MAY 17 by Jay-Jay
'Sharifa Asma' and/or 'A Shropshire Lad' might do the trick as a standard. For me they performed well as such.
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Reply #9 of 9 posted 22 MAY 17 by happymaryellen
Thank you very much I'll look those up. Thank
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Reply #5 of 9 posted 21 MAY 17 by Nastarana
I removed 'Sceptered Isle' from my yard in CA. It grew both up and out at a great rate, made a shaggy monster of a bush with canes in all directions, and, for me, did not bloom enough to merit the space it was taking. I found the flowers unexciting and fragrance mild at best. I would rate this one with 'Lilac Rose' as one of the very few Austin intros. which, IMHO, ought to have been left in the field. I suppose it must have looked good in England.
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Reply #7 of 9 posted 22 MAY 17 by happymaryellen
Thank you
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