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Discussion id : 99-695
most recent 22 MAY 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 21 MAY 17 by happymaryellen
Anyone have this rose as a tree?? I am looking to add a couple of trees next year..thinking lady Emma and Scepter...anyone have this in a tree?
Reply #1 of 9 posted 21 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I grew Scepter'd Isle as OWN-ROOT in zone 5a, but it got too big & vigorous, and I had to stake it. It was over 5 feet tall !! That would be twice bigger in a warm climate, and even bigger as grafted-on-Dr.Huey. Lady Emma Hamilton stays tiny as own-root for cold-zoners, so that would be more appropriate for a tree/standard.

David Austin catalog shows Scepter'd Isle as a tree-rose, but Austin roses are much bigger in a warmer climate like California, where there's no frost-kill. One summer the temp. here got up to 100 degree, I visited nearby rose-park and Jude the Obscure's bloom was at 6 feet tall, would need a ladder to sniff that. Abraham Darby was over 7 feet tall, thanks to the hot weather.
Reply #2 of 9 posted 21 MAY 17 by happymaryellen
Good to know, our area, northern ca g ts quite warm. I am new to this, only two years...45 bushes, including seven, probaby scepter would be too big to tree here perhaps?
Reply #3 of 9 posted 21 MAY 17 by Andrew from Dolton
In my much cooler garden it grows as a 1 metre high bush. Despite getting blackspot quite badly it manages a couple of good flushes of flowers each year. My plant was bought directly from David Austin.
'Septer'd Isle' would be well worth a trial in your garden, on HMF it is reccommended for climates "USDA zone 5b through 10b". Grow 'Scepter'd Isle' in a place where you can easily enjoy the exquisite and unusual myrrh scent of its flowers.
Reply #4 of 9 posted 21 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Austin roses' scent are best in cooler temperature. Scepter'd Isle scent is reduced to "dirty socks" scent in our hot summer. Roses are much bigger in warm climate with no frost-kill, I have 3 sisters in California, one in Fremont killed her roses since they compete with her young trees. I gave away my own-root Scepter'd Isle since it got too tall, and I had to stake it. It was very healthy in my alkaline clay, never see blackspots on that one.
Reply #8 of 9 posted 22 MAY 17 by happymaryellen
Thank you!
Reply #6 of 9 posted 21 MAY 17 by Jay-Jay
'Sharifa Asma' and/or 'A Shropshire Lad' might do the trick as a standard. For me they performed well as such.
Reply #9 of 9 posted 22 MAY 17 by happymaryellen
Thank you very much I'll look those up. Thank
Reply #5 of 9 posted 21 MAY 17 by Nastarana
I removed 'Sceptered Isle' from my yard in CA. It grew both up and out at a great rate, made a shaggy monster of a bush with canes in all directions, and, for me, did not bloom enough to merit the space it was taking. I found the flowers unexciting and fragrance mild at best. I would rate this one with 'Lilac Rose' as one of the very few Austin intros. which, IMHO, ought to have been left in the field. I suppose it must have looked good in England.
Reply #7 of 9 posted 22 MAY 17 by happymaryellen
Thank you
Discussion id : 78-035
most recent 20 JAN 15 SHOW ALL
Initial post 5 MAY 14 by twinkletoad (zone 7B)
I recommend Scepter d'Isle! This is one of my favorite light pink Austins so far. I like it much better than Heritage. The shape of the bush is just fine if kept trimmed and is extremely healthy and vigorous. Out of the Austin roses I planted last year, this one grew the most and is absolutely covered in buds. (They are all planted in the same general area). The fragrance is WONDERFUL! A soft, almost powdery rose scent, hard to describe. The blooms don't last too long in a vase, but they don't blow as fast as Heritage. I also have Sharifa Asma, and it would be my second favorite light pink Austin, not quite as robust as Scepter here in 7B but perhaps it's just taking a little longer to get established.
Reply #1 of 5 posted 8 MAY 14 by HMF Admin
Your various posts are much appreciated and informative. Thank you.
Reply #2 of 5 posted 19 JAN 15 by cole
Thanks so much for sharing this information - I'm in the process of trying to decide between Heritage and Scept'rd Isle. Could you share a little bit more about your experience with Heritage and why you prefer Scept'rd Isle more? Thanks so much for your time!
Reply #3 of 5 posted 19 JAN 15 by twinkletoad (zone 7B)
Hi Cole,
I prefer Scepter'd Isle over Heritage because, for me, it is just overall a better plant and thrives without a lot of care. The scent of Scepter'd Isle is heavenly, it blooms non stop, the shrub is healthier looking than Heritage, and grows faster and larger. Also, I love the soft pink, ethereal blooms. Heritage has not been a good grower for me and I may try to move it and see if does any better in another spot. Still, the individual flowers have just not impressed me the way Scepter's has- it's a little more ordinary (but certainly not unlikable). People walking through my garden always prefer Scepter out of all my pink roses, scent-wise!
Reply #4 of 5 posted 20 JAN 15 by cole
Many thanks for your quick response - you've been super helpful to me!
Reply #5 of 5 posted 20 JAN 15 by twinkletoad (zone 7B)
You're very welcome- glad I could help! I don't think you would be disappointed in Scepter. I bought mine from Roses Unlimited in South Carolina. I've bought many roses from them and feel they offer very good plants at a fair price, including their shipping fees. Their customer service has also been top notch!
Discussion id : 78-174
most recent 10 MAY 14 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 10 MAY 14 by Barocco, Andrew
I've grown and seen just about every Austin there is. Scepter'd Isle is the best one so far. Perpetual bloom, the most fragrant Austin, and surprisingly disease resistant, a true winner. HIGHLY recommended!
Discussion id : 64-344
most recent 17 APR 13 SHOW ALL
Initial post 17 MAY 12 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
This rose is a huge bush in my alkaline clay. The light myrrh scent is gone in hot summer. It always blooms, but the color fades and shatters in hot sun. It's 100% healthy in my alkaline heavy clay, but others report it as blackspot prone. The prickles are sharp and many.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 17 APR 13 by Lola-lemon
I have a 5 year old own root Scepter d'Isle and it is a perfect vase shape. It is also not extraordinarily prickly. It is a constant bloomer, has lots of foliage and is very vigorous. I love it. Other Austin's , like Abraham Darby and Gertrude Jekyll, are known for throwing long canes and GJ is extremely thorny-- but I think of this rose as very different to them.
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