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Discussion id : 71-389
most recent 17 MAY 13 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 4 MAY 13 by andrewandsally
Hardy's 1837 Catalogue des Rosiers (p.141) also ascribes an Italian origin to this variety.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 4 MAY 13 by jedmar
Thank you, breeder modified.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 4 MAY 13 by andrewandsally
Thanks. Of course, no one knows the breeder, but my bet would be Casoretti, because Hardy uses the abbreviation Mon. or the word Monza to indicate that city and It., Ita. and Ital. for others. Of these others quite a number are almost certainly Casoretti varieties. Not conclusive, I agree, but a strong indicator.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 5 MAY 13 by jedmar
I agree. Let us hope that some conclusive evidence will come up soon.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 17 MAY 13 by andrewandsally
O.K. You want conclusive evidence, well, here it is (well, as conclusive as anything is likely to be at this point). I take the opportunity of attaching this information to comments refering to 'Nora' for reasons that will become clear.
Helpmefind readers following the gradual accumulation of varieties attributable to Giovanni Casoretti will know that among the varieties in the villa Traversi garden identified as being raised by him there were 'Pasta', 'Compton' and 'la belle Judith'. 'Compton' was Sir George Ferrars Compton Marquis Townshend who lived in villa Belvedere, also known as villa Compton, at Blevio on Lake Como. His neighbour was the great opera singer, born Giuditta Negri but known professionally by her married name Pasta. (The rose 'Negri' might refer to her or the Negri brothers who were camelia breeders.).
George Compton, whom Manetti refers to in several articles in the Gardener's Magazine as a person to whom Lombardy is indebted for the introduction of many plants, had to wards, Judith and Nora.
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