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'William F. Dreer' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 102-899
most recent 20 JUL 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 19 JUL 17 by Nastarana
Are or were their two roses named 'W. F. Dreer', one a hybrid tea with the same parentage as 'Los Angeles' and the other a rambler?
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 19 JUL 17 by scvirginia
Both the Pernetiana and the Wichuraiana are referred to as William F. Dreer, but it seems that only the Wich. is referred to as 'W. F. Dreer'.

Do you have a reference calling the HT 'W. F. Dreer'? If so, we can add the reference and 'W. F. Dreer' as a synonym...

Virginia
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 19 JUL 17 by Nastarana
No. I became a bit confused by the two cultivars having the same name. Do we know who William F Dreer was?
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 20 JUL 17 by scvirginia
Dreer's Nursery in Philadelphia was started by Henry Dreer, and continued by his son William F. Dreer.
http://www.sil.si.edu/SILPublications/seeds/dreerhenry-a.html

I see the reference, and will note it in the comments for the Pernetiana. I see no reason not to add 'W. F. Dreer' as a synonym for both roses; it's confusing otherwise.

Thanks,
Virginia
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 19 JUL 17 by Nastarana
There is the 1924 Hazlewood Bros. reference.http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.3891.0&tab=32
wherein 'W. F. Dreer" is referred to as a "pink Los Angeles".
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 20 JUL 17 by scvirginia
The comments were already there. I've added the synonym.

Virginia
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 20 JUL 17 by Patricia Routley
I put references in the wrong Dreer. I think we are all sorted and renamed clearly now.

Later edit. Almost! The 1922 Hazlewood reference needs to be deleted out of the wich climber file. I am unable to delete it.
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