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'Boule de Neige' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 127-849
most recent 30 MAY HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 MAY by Lesky
Rose Petals Nursery is currently carrying this rose. I bought one from them in 2019 but it appears to be a mislabeled plant of Madame Plantier.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 29 MAY by Nastarana
Those wondrous Lacharme hybrids from an extinct Damask perpetual named 'Sappho' and a Bourbon (or Noisette, as some would have it) are, alas, almost all out of commerce now in North America.

I am fascinated to learn that you can grow BdN in zone 5b; would you mind telling us something about its' site, and how much winter protection it needs?
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 30 MAY by Lesky
I am updating my response. After making a comparison to my 'Boule de Neige' to a plant I have of Madame Plantier, which is 2 years old and just blooming this year, I realize the two appear to be one and the same--I believe my BdN was mislabeled and, as I had no previous experience with it or MP, didn't question it until now. I very much like the rose, but I apologize for misleading anyone that it was an noteworthy and successful Boule de Neige!

I did previously mention that Hummingbird Roses in northern Michigan has BdN on her list-it so happened that I was able to physically visit her and verified that her parent plant of BdN is definitely more like the descriptions and character that I had read, with shiny, larger, darker green coloring in the foliage and a less lanky habit than what I have growing. In doublechecking, I saw a photo here from May of 2013 of a plant that was labeled BdN but questioned by knowledgeable rosarians, one of whom suggested it was an Alba. Sure enough, my plant looks like that one, and since I could make a direct comparison to Mme. Plantier, I feel confident they are the same.

All to say that, what I was crowing about is not BdN, but Mme. Plantier or another Alba. (I'm removing my photo of it from this rose commentary and may post it under MP.) I'm also going to keep trying to get a Boule de Neige!
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Discussion id : 121-095
most recent 23 APR 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 23 APR 20 by Magnus95
Can someone comment on the repeat flowering of this Bourbon? Thanks.
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Discussion id : 114-803
most recent 7 JAN 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 JAN 19 by Spotto
Can anyone explain why HMF describes this rose as a Noisette? I raise the question because it is nothing like a Noisette and the stated breeding is consistent with its appearance and fragrance i.e it is a white damask type of Bourbon rose.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 7 JAN 19 by Margaret Furness
Lacharme was apparently someone who believed "if you're onto a good thing, stick to it". He released at least five roses with the same parentage. They are often called Bourbon-Noisettes, presumably on a historical basis, since Boule de Neige was called a hybrid Noisette in 1880.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 7 JAN 19 by Spotto
Thanks for the explanation, Margaret. The rose stubbornly refuses to embrace its attributed classification.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 7 JAN 19 by Margaret Furness
Mme Alfred de Rougement: "the French have consistently classed it as hybrid Noisette" - since 1863!
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Discussion id : 82-869
most recent 29 JAN 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 JAN 15 by Give me caffeine
Mistydowns seems to be carrying this rose now (not currently listed in the nurseries for this rose).

http://mistydowns.com.au/plant_display/display/186-boule-de-neige
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