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"Eric's Yellow 11" rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 114-709
most recent 14 JUL 20 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 1 JAN 19 by Patricia Routley
Is "Eric's Yellow 11" familiar to anybody?
The only rose I know of that hangs on to its petals like this is 'Irene Churruca' syn 'Golden Melody', but this rose is far too yellow for that.
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Reply #1 of 11 posted 18 JAN 19 by rose marsh
Could Eric's Yellow be Speks YellowI know the introduction date is later than the 40's but......Rose M
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Reply #2 of 11 posted 18 JAN 19 by HubertG
Maybe "Phyllis Gold' from 1935 could be a possibility.
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Reply #3 of 11 posted 18 JAN 19 by Patricia Routley
The patent for ‘Spek’s Yellow’ says “distinctive straight thorns”.
The 1936 reference for ‘Phyllis Gold’ (presumably coming from Wheatcroft Bros.) says “black thorns”. Whether they mean black thorns on the new or old wood, I don’t know. I will tackle the old rose books this afternoon and add any interesting references I find. Many thanks for your thoughts HubertG. They are appreciated.
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Reply #4 of 11 posted 18 JAN 19 by HubertG
You're welcome, Patricia,
I actually saw that reference to black thorns after I had posted my 'Phyllis Gold' comment. Then of course I went scrutinising the photos of "Eric's Yellow 11" for thorns but I actually couldn't find any. I don't know if this is just chance - that there aren't any thorns in the photos - or if it's in fact a relatively thornless rose. Being thornless might be an extra clue.
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Reply #5 of 11 posted 18 JAN 19 by Patricia Routley
It certainly might. I have to lift the plastic bag from the cuttings this morning to check for moisture, so if I see any thorns at all, I’ll report back.
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Reply #6 of 11 posted 12 JUL 20 by ThomasR
Although the 1922 reference says it is 'entirely free from mildew and black spot', could Mabel Morse be an option for this rose ?
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Reply #7 of 11 posted 12 JUL 20 by HubertG
That's not a bad suggestion, ThomasR. 'Mabel Morse' does seem to have a somewhat globular shape to the central part of the flower, the stems are brownish and the foliage glossy.
Is Eric's Yellow sweetly scented?
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Reply #8 of 11 posted 13 JUL 20 by ThomasR
That is a bit anecdotal but in case this may help : I recently noticed hanging dead petals on Orchid Masterpiece, which is a descendant of possible identification Geheimrat Duisberg. I never noticed that before but I usually dead-head it.
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Reply #9 of 11 posted 14 JUL 20 by Patricia Routley
You two are just marvellous. Thank you so much for your input.
I have planted out my own-root plant of “Eric’s Yellow” and it will be a year or so before I see anything of interest to report. But my impression to date is that whatever its name, it is very likely to start with Gold. My computer is away for maintenance so I cannot investigate ‘Geheimrat Duisberg’ (syn ‘Golden Rapture’) 1933 more right now, but it is looking an excellent suggestion. Long term the thorns will tell us as Geheimrat Duisberg‘ had long prickles, and ‘Mabel Morse’ had “few prickles”.
Thank you to you both.
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Reply #10 of 11 posted 14 JUL 20 by rose marsh
Patricia, I do not think now that Eric's Yellow is Speks Yellow,I do not know if it has thorns, Sorry. I have Modern Roses 1930 by Rossi if you would like to borrow it. Rose
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Reply #11 of 11 posted 14 JUL 20 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Rose, that is nice of you, but I do have that book.
If you ever vet a chance to revisit Eric, take a photo or two of “Eric’s Yellow’s” thorns. There is a good chance that it could be ‘Golden Rapture’ 2933 and we do have excellent photos of that rose’s distinctive thorns. Otherwise we will have to wait until my rose grows on to compare thorns. Did you manage to get cuttings to strike?
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