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Discussion id : 167-933
most recent 23 JUL HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 20 JUL by Michael Garhart
Dang, all the informalness of 'Mellow Yellow', on a more compact, more gold plant.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 21 JUL by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Let the hunt begin!
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 21 JUL by Michael Garhart
UK/EU/AUS/NZ all have mostly better yellows than North America, but they'll never see the light of day here, and I really don't know why.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 21 JUL by Robert Neil Rippetoe
It's a mystery to me too.

I've seen superior varieties in evaluations that never get selected for introduction.

Maybe they ask too much for royalties?
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 21 JUL by Nastarana
It has interesting, healthy foliage. The leaflets have that puckered look one sees on 'Peace' and its' sports.

As for why we can't get certain roses here, IDK but I do wonder what is in the contracts nurseries have to sign with wholesalers. I have noticed that when certain nurseries, Stargazer Perennials, which is no longer selling roses, comes to mind, begin offering the newest Kordes introductions, all of a sudden, Kordes roses is about all that are being offered.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 22 JUL by Michael Garhart
Kordes floods Asia, as well. They have a stranglehold on a lot of the market sectors. Don't get me wrong. They have a lot of good roses. But its fairly obvious. There is a Japanese grocery store here, and sometimes I browse the back of the magazines there. Tons of Kordes roses ads lol. All in Japanese.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 23 JUL by Michael Garhart
I meant to also reply that my 'Toprose' also has similar foliage. I think some 'Arthur Bell' descendants get it, and its bred from 'Peace' line. 'Toprose' has 5 instances of 'Peace' in its breeding.

Weeks still sells 'Oregold' in with its mixed rose assortments of 3g and 5g potted bud and bloom to mid-sized stores. 'Oregold' stands out in those assortments as looking much weaker and less vigorous than the other roses in the batch. Yet, they keep selling it like its as amazing and modern like the rest.
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