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Discussion id : 129-056
most recent 14 SEP HIDE POSTS
Initial post 14 SEP by Le_Not
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Discussion id : 76-168
most recent 20 MAY 17 SHOW ALL
Initial post 21 JAN 14 by Charles Quest-Ritson
'Cardinal de Richelieu' is NOT strongly fragrant. It is one of the least fragrant of old roses. You might also mention that it is triploid, which suggests that it is a cross between a China rose and a European rose, though it has several other characteristics which point to China blood (including the brilliance of the flowers' colour, the shape of the prickles, and the small, shiny leaves).
Reply #1 of 1 posted 20 MAY 17 by Gdisaz10
i agree no fragrance
Discussion id : 3-435
most recent 19 JUL 10 SHOW ALL
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Unregistered Guest
I was told this will not bloom in zone 10. is that absolute truth?

thank you.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 23 AUG 03 by Clara
Possibly. Gallicas are pretty hardy plants and need cold winters. 'Cardinal de Richlieu' is sometimes classed as a Hybrid China. But the truth is, no one is quite sure of its bloodlines. I would think that Zone 10 would be on the hot side for this plant and so it probably won't do well there because of that.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 22 MAR 04 by Anonymous-797
I think it does bloom, but not too well. If you are in Southern California, visit the Huntington rose garden & library in Pasadena. They have an established plant of it there, as well as some other Gallicas. As a rule, most Gallicas need some chill to bloom well, but there's always the exception -- especially since CdR has possible China in its ancestry. I remember seeing CdR flowering there but having only one or two blossoms; which I attributed to being late in the season. They planted it to receive light shade in the afternoon, since desert sun burns/scorches dark colored roses to a crisp. Hope this helps. --- ML
Reply #3 of 3 posted 19 JUL 10 by CynthiaH
I am in So Cal, I believe I'm zone 9, sunset z19 and I used to grow CdR. It gets very hot where I live (like in the 100's for days on end). Yet, CdR did flower for me when the gardeners didn't prune in winter, which drove me nuts. They would always cut it just as buds were forming. Luckily it began to sucker after a few years and a few canes were able to hide from the pruners behind the thick drapes of giant white Lady Banks close by and so I would be surprised by the startlingly purple pompom between the ferny leaves of Lady Banks. I loved, loved this rose! What a treat. I am trying to grow it again and this time, no more gardeners! Note that where it used to grow faced west and got brutal afternoon sun but was always moist due a leaking sprinkler pipe underground.
Discussion id : 9-380
most recent 28 AUG 07 SHOW ALL
Initial post 27 JUN 05 by Unregistered Guest
Does anyone know of a remontant rose of similar size that is this color (& I don't mean "mauve", or pink-purple, or violet, or magenta, or crimson-purple)? I've grown this before, but don't have it now. I would like to grow something this color in a bed in front of New Dawn (I love the idea of the grapey-purple contrasting against the pale silvery pink), but finding this color (or anything remotely close to it) is a real challenge!

ps: I'm in hardiness zone 6.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 30 JUN 05 by Lyn G
I tend to favor Kim Rupert's 'Purple Buttons', but I am not certain if it would meet your color requirements. As you know, color, size of bloom and many other characteristics of a rose are varibable depending on climate, culture and more.


Reply #2 of 2 posted 28 AUG 07 by Ananto
The first one that springs to my mind is Reine des Violettes, if you want an old garden rose. I don't grow it myself. Otherwise try one of the Austin roses.
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