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'Barbra Streisand ®' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 117-138
most recent 12 JUN 19 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 12 JUN 19 by Pitchford Gardens
Black spot can be a problem for this rose. I am in New Mexico where black spot is not typically a big deal. Otherwise it is a fine rosebush, continually blooming. This is the first year it has been a big problem. Nearby roses — Fragrant Plum, Paradise and Love Song had very little black spot. It's been in for 5 or 6 years. This is the first year that a single rose bush had so much black spot, so we will see how it does next year.
Discussion id : 105-900
most recent 6 OCT 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 6 OCT 17 by BenT_TX
An excellent garden rose, Barbra Streisand is a total blooming fool, covering itself with scores of blooms with fast repeat. It produces many basal breaks and blooms in huge panicles, I have nicknamed her ‘Barbra Candlelabra’. It blooms well in all weather, and is still generous during my hot and humid summers. The foliage is especially glossy and beautiful. It is not my favorite color...definitely on the pink side of mauve, it might be called orchid pink or even a dusty rose. The color is somewhere between First Prize and Angel Face, and just barely earns a mauve classification. Still , for its easy care, prodigious bloom and strong old rose fragrance, this rose well earns its place in the garden.
Discussion id : 5-177
most recent 3 JUL 17 SHOW ALL
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by
Flower color & size do best in milder temps (courtesy Weeks Roses).
Reply #1 of 3 posted 18 JUN 06 by cajunangi
I bought this rose and Im from South Louisiana...I spray every week for blackspot and havent had to to much problems on my other roses.  Im waiting on it to come in now...any
Reply #2 of 3 posted 20 JUN 09 by Toronto_Stan
Babs is not as disease prone as I had initially read about. I sprayed her earlier than the others last year as a preventative measure and she never had black spot or mildew. Just don't let the fungus establish in the first place.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 3 JUL 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I wish I had seen HMF's comment earlier !! Put Barbra in a pot in full-sun at 90+ hot temp, and leaves got scorched in just a few days .. so I moved the pot to a few hours of morning sun, and it pumped out leaves & buds. It refused to bloom until I gave it lots of SOLUBLE fertilizer, and leaves got glossier with alkaline pea- gravel. Glossy foliage needs alkaline minerals & constant moisture & partial shade.
Discussion id : 96-889
most recent 16 JUN 17 SHOW ALL
Initial post 16 JAN 17 by Badger Rose
Such a beautiful mauve color! My blossoms seem a little light on the petal count, but I'm sure that's in part to the plant struggling in my climate. It seems hardy through the winter (surprisingly for the small size it's attained) but the humidity of summer brings on defoliating blackspot. She loses all her leaves and is reduced to three green very upright sticks which is a funny sight next to her monstrous, verdant neighbor Wedding Bells. This spring I plan to move her to a pot to see if she does better in a more controlled and isolated environment. (zone 5a WI)
Reply #1 of 15 posted 30 APR 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Barbra Streisand, with dark-green foliage, is known to like alkaline clay & well-drained. That's why I ordered as own-root coming this May. Will let you know its performance later. As own-root some roses prefer loamy/sandy soil, others do better in clay (can be acidic or alkaline). Own-roots have their own pH-preference, depending on where they were bred. To test soil pH, google "cheapest soil test using red-cabbage juice". I paid money for my soil to be tested professionally and did that again using red-cabbage juice, and the results were the same. My soil pH is 7.7 and my soil is alkaline heavy clay. Knowing one's soil helps to select the right own-roots.

I'm 1 hour south of Wisconsin, so I looked up Wisconsin soil, and found this great link on different types of soil:
My soil is composed of the first two categories in the above link: low acid & fertile brownish sub-clay (Alfisols), and very black & high organic matter in the top 1 foot (Mollisols/Histosols).
Reply #2 of 15 posted 2 MAY 17 by Badger Rose
Yes, I will definitely have to read up on those. I tried doing my own kit which points to alkaline and seems more clay-like to me as well. I have already tried stalking your postings for ideas on what might work in my garden. I am interested in sulfate of potash for nutrition during blooming you mentioned elsewhere. My garden store did not have that and I bought muriate of potash instead. Do you think that will work and how to administer? Black spot and Japanese beetles are the two scourges in my garden! If not for those it would be awesome.
Reply #3 of 15 posted 2 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Alas, another victim like me fell for the prey of muriate of potash .... it's another name for potassium chloride, the stuff that we use to de-ice side-walks in zone 5a. It's extremely salty, with salt index of 116.2, versus much lower salt sulfate of potash, with salt index 42.6. Data taken from University of Illinois Crop Sciences. I tested muriate of potash, and it was a disaster: pale roses' petals turned brownish, very ugly. I would save that stuff to de-ice your walk-way in freezing winter.

Amazon sells sulfate of potash cheap, but the stuff sold at local stores as "Potash" is often the cheap & high salt potassium chloride (muriate of potash). Kelp4less has free shipping, and their sulfate of potash worked very well in producing blooms, same with the one ordered on Amazon.
Reply #4 of 15 posted 13 JUN 17 by Badger Rose
Oh, goodness! I'm glad I saw your response before I put some on my garden. I am pretty disappointed with my local garden store lately. Thanks for your tips. I did find an organic vegetable spray that has sulfur in it that seems to be keeping the blackspot in check SO FAR (except, of course, for my misfit Barbra Streisand who likes to stay petite and high maintenance with all her beauty marks).
Reply #5 of 15 posted 13 JUN 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I love your comments, they make me laugh. Thanks. Barbra Streisand is slow in a pot (bought as own-root in May). She's the slowest to grow among the 7 that I bought from Roses Unlimited, others broke out in buds way before her. Despite many fertilizers, she grew only 1 inch, only after I doused her with calcium/sulfate of potash solution. I was ready to spank her. She has very thick & glossy leaves, so I suspect a higher demand for calcium and potassium. Her first bloom lasted very long in the vase, means a higher need for calcium & potassium. Since my tap water is pH 9, I use a large bottle, fill with half-way with vinegar, then add sulfate of potash 1st (less than 2 cups of vinegar with 1/2 cups of sulfate of potash), let it dissolve COMPLETELY, before adding about 1/4 to 1/2 cup gypsum and stop when things can't be dissolved. I use 1 tablespoon of that per gallon of tap water for Barbra, and less for others.
Reply #6 of 15 posted 13 JUN 17 by Lavenderlace
Badger and Straw are making me laugh too! Your Barbra stories remind me of my struggles with Heirloom!
Reply #8 of 15 posted 13 JUN 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I bought Heirloom for the 3rd time .. this time as grafted. I succeeded in making the soil fast-draining & loamy, and it's 100% healthy even through weeks of rain. I watered it with high-potassium red-lava-rock water. Then the bunnies devour Heirloom rose during our hot & dry spell. Heirloom's leaves are thin like lettuce & mild & yummy for fungus and bunnies to feast on. I'm moving Heirloom to a spot where bunnies can't eat. DOES BARBRA STREISASND PREFER FULL-SUN, or partial shade? Thanks for any info.
Reply #13 of 15 posted 16 JUN 17 by Badger Rose
Haha! That is funny stuff. She is our defiant child all right! I will try to that potion on her as soon as I get around to ordering the good stuff from Amazon. Thank you for your secret potion recipe.
Reply #7 of 15 posted 13 JUN 17 by Lavenderlace
Does that vegetable spray with sulfur work? That's interesting because I deal with a lot of sulfur in my water.
Reply #9 of 15 posted 14 JUN 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Lavenderlace: Do you use sulfur to lower alkaline tap water?

UPDATE: As OWN-ROOT Barbara Streisand doesn't like full-sun at 92 F, top leaves got scorched to brown, while Nahema next to it is OK, same with Geranium Red and Golden Celebration.
Reply #10 of 15 posted 14 JUN 17 by Lavenderlace
Straw, my well water often smells like sulfur so we go through a lot of filters.
Reply #11 of 15 posted 15 JUN 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Lavenderlace: My hunch about glossy foliage means water-hog is correct. Barbra Streisand REFUSED to grow for 1 month since I put it in full-sun & watered daily in wet MG-potting soil. Then I moved to partial shade (4 hours of morning sun), and we got heavy rain last night (1st time in a month !!) .. and it pumped out new growth at last. This rose needs tons of water to grow, best in partial shade & dense & moisture-retentive clay or peaty potting soil.
Reply #12 of 15 posted 15 JUN 17 by Lavenderlace
That's exactly how glossy foliage Love Potion is behaving. Very interesting data!
Reply #14 of 15 posted 16 JUN 17 by Badger Rose
As to the vegetable spray which is called "Tomato & Vegetable 3 in 1" it appears to be working -so far-. It's been getting hot and humid already but we all know July and August will be worse. Last year the blackspot dam broke and flooded throughout the garden in midsummer. My roses were very angry with me then because I let it get so bad, but there was no way to put the blackspot back behind the dam. This year I vowed to stay on top of it and I thought the vegetable spray (which says it's good for organic gardening) with sulfur and pyrethrin would help with disease and sawflies. It seems to be working for those things and it didn't burn the foliage but I will say it sure didn't deter the thrips. Yes, it's true I sprayed before the roses bloomed so the buds didn't get any protection.

It does leave a slight brimstone aroma to the garden. It reminds me of the cream the dermatologist prescribed to me once upon a time to get rid of my own blackspots. That had sulfur in it, too. Since it rained so much the last couple of days the smell is pretty much gone.
Reply #15 of 15 posted 16 JUN 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
That's great info, thank you. My last house of acidic clay was a BS-fest, but my current house of alkaline clay, roses are much healthier ... another rosarian nearby also noticed his roses are quite clean in alkaline & loamier soil. After 2-days of non-stop rain, Barbra gained at least 10 leaves in partial shade (I gave it blood meal & gypsum) to stimulate growth.
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