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Discussion id : 120-150
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Initial post 10 days ago by PeterHeis
Can anyone help with the lineage of The Fairy?
I try to find it out (as i planned to order Paul Crampel to make a mixed group of similar looking plants which is beliebed to be trhe pollen parent of The Fairy) but then in the references there are completely different parentages shown from different sources.

It seems first it was "described" as the appereance is like a miniature Lady Godiva, then from the 50s it's displayed as "sport of Lady Godiva", then from the 80s mostly they refer to the cross Paul Crampel X Lady Gay, but i don't see any source, or article that explains this situation...

I probably tend to believe the PC X LGay cross is proper as The Fairy is remontant - it's easier to accept this than as "a sport of a non-remontant climber"...

Does anyone have more information on this?


Thanks, Peter
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 8 days ago by Patricia Routley
Peter, I have added a few more references but haven't found anything concrete. Perhaps the confusion stems from the two 1935 refs?

1935 (RNRS Select List) "described as a miniature flowering ‘Lady Godiva'

1935 (RNRS Trial Ground) "dwarf ‘Lady Gay’".

1936 (Rosenlexikon) similar to 'Fairy Cluster' 1935 [which was { Dainty Bess × Ideal (polyantha, Spek, 1921) ]

1952 (Modern Roses 4) ‘Lady Godiva’ sport.

1959 (Genders): This was a dwarf ‘sport’ from the pale pink climber ‘Lady Godiva’.

1978 (Harkness): wherein ‘Lady Godiva’ proved well able to sport, and to change her character more than is usual, for ‘The Fairy’ I am sure is a deeper colour in flower and leaf than ‘Lady Godiva’; and the growth is entirely different

1980 (Gibson) Sport of the rambler ‘Lady Godiva’, but a Polyantha in habit.

1986 (Modern Roses 9) ‘Paul Crampel’ x ‘Lady Gay’

1988 (Beales) ‘Paul Crampel’ x ‘Lady Gay’.

1988 (Le Rougetel) ‘Paul Crampel’ x ‘Lady Gay’.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 8 days ago by PeterHeis
thank you so much Patricia,

When i was going through the references i kinda got confused after a while, with the "sport of Godiva' from the 50s to 80s, thne out of the blue the PC x LGay cross.

As i've read Lady Godiva has a good tendency to sport - what's your opinion about it? My knowledge in the rose universe is very little, but i don't often meet a cultivar that is a rambler and once blooming that can sport to an almost miniature, continuous flowering type - especially that Lady Godiva doesn't even have anything like that in the parentage.
The PC x LGay is more likely to me, considering all the charasteristics of Paul Crampel.

Anyways, Thank you very much again,

Peter
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 8 days ago by Margaret Furness
It can happen. Tausendschon to Echo, which produced a dynasty of colour sports (and reverts readily).
Felicite-Perpetue to White Pet.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 8 days ago by PeterHeis
Thank you Margaret,
yes i've seen that Tausendschön has Echo - also interesting, Fairy doesn't revert back to any of those ramblers/climbers though, only Fairy clg. , still keeps the continuous flowering habit.

I just can't see the source for the PC x L.Gay cross anywhere, somehow i'd love to find out now :) for me, that option is stil much,much more likely.


Peter
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Discussion id : 117-069
most recent 7 JUN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 JUN by Songnguyen
Available from - Nguyễn Trường Tùng
Huế, Việtnam
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 7 JUN by jedmar
We have no Information about nurseries in Viet Nam. Can you give us links to any Websites?
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Discussion id : 117-068
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Initial post 7 JUN by Songnguyen
Available from - Đỗ Ngọc Hướng
Bình Dương
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Discussion id : 35-760
most recent 3 SEP 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 20 APR 09 by Allison
I love this rose! This is the most forgiving rose I have ever grown. When my grandmother's house was going to be sold, I went and collected some of her plants. I dug out part of a long-neglected rose bush (not fertilized, sprayed or pruned in at least 10 years), which turned out to be 'The Fairy'. I yanked it around with me until I bought my own house 4 years ago. At that time, my back was collapsing due to an old fracture, and I was very limited in what I could do. I dug a hole in the clay dirt we have in TN and plopped this poor thing in it with no amendments or fertilizing (I know, I know--this was also before rose fever hit me and I had no idea what I was doing). About 3 months later, I had major back surgery, and I was completely unable to tend my garden for 3 years. This rose blooms continuously until at least November--sometimes December here, and I have never seen a pest or disease anywhere on it--and all without the benefit of any fertilizing, spraying or pruning for 3 years. It is even more beautiful this spring. I have also found that it makes beautiful dried flowers--you can even cut off a whole spray and dry it that way. I am currently focusing on making cuttings of this great rose to give to my brother for his wedding, and to plant more of them in my yard. It may not be the flashiest rose, and I can't detect any scent at all, but you just can't beat it for easy beauty in the landscape--not to mention providing armfuls of bouquets for the house.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 3 SEP 16 by SweetheartofJ
Forgiving and faithful. Wonderful rose story.
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