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'Oklahoma' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 127-846
most recent 28 MAY 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 MAY 21 by drossb1986
This was a no-thought grab at Lowe's this spring. I'd always seen Oklahoma, but never bothered to give it a try. Well, I probably should've stayed away. On the plus side, the flowers smell great! And, if you're a fan of dark red roses, it's good. BUT, that dark red has fried in just 85 degree weather here in Mississippi already this spring. The blooms open exceptionally quickly, and I do not find the very dark, red-velvet color that pleasing especially when it has crispy edges. When open, it also has a very floppy bloom which I'm generally not a fan of. It will go from bud, to open, to petals dropped in 3 days. Comparing the crew of "old reds" like Mister Lincoln and Chrysler Imperial, CI is still my favorite. It opens fast, but not as fast as OK. It smells great. It's very healthy. It has a nice growing habit. And, the color isn't as drab.
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Discussion id : 82-664
most recent 16 FEB 21 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 24 JAN 15 by Give me caffeine
Although I do not actually grow this rose, I did recently have the opportunity to see it and smell it at a nursery.

I do have a 'Mister Lincoln' growing here, which has a great scent that is certainly nothing to complain about, but in my opinion the scent of 'Oklahoma' was even better. Hard to say exactly why, but it just seemed a bit lusher and earthier and sexier.

Given that it's supposed to be as tough as old boots, I may have to get one sometime.
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Reply #1 of 15 posted 14 FEB 21 by ....
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Reply #2 of 15 posted 14 FEB 21 by Give me caffeine
Haven't got one yet. Lincoln is easier to come by, and they reckon it's more vigorous. But then I've seen people say their Oklahoma's get huge too, so it can't be a weakling. Really I'd like to have both.

Edit: And hey, public comments working for me this morning! It's a miracle!
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Reply #3 of 15 posted 14 FEB 21 by ....
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Reply #4 of 15 posted 15 FEB 21 by Give me caffeine
No, sorry, I can't remember that detail.

TBH even the bush form of Lincoln tends to grow straight up, and can easily hit eight feet. I'm not sure how different the climber would be.
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Reply #5 of 15 posted 15 FEB 21 by ....
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Reply #6 of 15 posted 15 FEB 21 by billy teabag
We have the family growing together - siblings Mr Lincoln, Oklahoma and Papa Meilland and the parents Charles Mallerin and Chryster Imperial.
They are all incredibly beautifully scented and it's so nice to be able to pick fragrant red roses for the times when only fragrant red roses will do.
In our conditions, with benign neglect and on fortuneana rootstock, all are very tall, except for Chrysler Imperial which has a more compact habit.
Each has a slightly different 'usual' bloom colour and shape.
Of the siblings, Oklahoma is the darkest and the bloom form is slightly globular.
Mr Lincoln is the lightest deep red of the three and the classic buds open to a cup shaped bloom. It makes the tallest and most robust bush in our conditions.
Papa Meilland is a very dark red, often with the blackish velvet sheen. The bloom form is the most classic - high-centred, opening in spiral form. It produces blooms on very long stems and the bush gets very tall by the end of the season if you don't keep bringing it down. The plant is strong but tends to be a bit sparse.
Of the parents, Charles Mallerin has ridiculously long stems. The plant looks thin and stretched and there's not much to ours. Mr Lincoln is very tall, but tends to make quite a lot of growth, so it is a much more robust and substantial-looking bush by comparison. Charles Mallerin is a very dark red but lacks some of the life and lustre of its beautiful children. It also doesn't repeat as often as all the others.
Chrysler Imperial is a really lovely rose - a slightly lighter red, but more petals, so the most voluptuous of the five - it has a bloom of exquisite shape and fragrance and the bush is more compact. It is Noelene Drage's favourite red florists' rose.
I love them all in the garden and if you could bottle the pleasure they have given to ourselves and others over the years....but Papa Meilland is my favourite as a cut flower and Chrysler Imperial is in a class of its own too.
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Reply #7 of 15 posted 15 FEB 21 by Give me caffeine
Hmmph. Now I want to try them all too. :P As if I didn't have enough to deal with.

Incidentally, I'm coming to the conclusion that roses are best interplanted with other things. One spiky mongrel on one side of me can be dealt with. Spiky mongrels on both sides is more problematic. I'm currently thinking things should always be arranged so that there is either a genuinely thornless rose (ie: G. Nabonnand, Peace, Mrs. Dudders, etc) or a normal thornless shrub, between everything that wants to bite me.
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Reply #9 of 15 posted 15 FEB 21 by ....
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Reply #10 of 15 posted 15 FEB 21 by Give me caffeine
I'm not actually a her. ;)
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Reply #11 of 15 posted 15 FEB 21 by ....
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Reply #12 of 15 posted 16 FEB 21 by Give me caffeine
I don't care how many times you re-post it. I'm still not going for gender reassignment. :D
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Reply #13 of 15 posted 16 FEB 21 by ....
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Reply #14 of 15 posted 16 FEB 21 by Give me caffeine
No worries. I was more amused than offended. ;)
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Discussion id : 115-085
most recent 25 JAN 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 JAN 19 by davyjns
Kind of depressing color but has a wonderful old rose scent.
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Discussion id : 38-845
most recent 1 AUG 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 25 AUG 09 by Carlene
I live in Houston where the sun is very strong, and I have Oklahoma planted in a pot under the outer branches of an Oak tree. It gets maybe 3-4 hours of sun a day, and it still blooms!!! Today I cut a lovely long stemmed beauty and it is in a vase on my kitchen counter. Who knew this rose was shade tolerant too??? Wow.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 25 AUG 09 by HMF Admin
Thanks Carlene !
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 1 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you for the info. on shade-tolerance.
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