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'Madame de Tartas' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 126-604
most recent 25 MAR 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 MAR 21 by billy teabag
Checking descendants of Mme de Tartas through lineage, there are some omissions including Marie Van Houtte, Mme Lambard, Mlle Cecile Brunner and Mme Caroline Testout
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 24 MAR 21 by jedmar
That's not good! It seems there is a break somewhere in the software. Will check with HMF Admin.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 24 MAR 21 by billy teabag
Many thanks Jedmar.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 24 MAR 21 by HMF Admin
Billy,

Yes, thank you. We are looking into this.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 25 MAR 21 by HMF Admin
Billy, this error has been corrected.

It appears to be a database corruption issue that happened many years ago and was not caught at the time. The issue was limited to this plant and had to do with combining synonyms with the rose 'Général Tartas'.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 25 MAR 21 by billy teabag
Thanks so much.
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Discussion id : 124-941
most recent 12 JAN 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 11 JAN 21 by Duchesse
The photos of this rose seem to be completely different colour. Which one would be correct for Austalia please? The dark pink or the cream?
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 11 JAN 21 by Margaret Furness
See Billy's comment of 25 March 2012. What is circulated in Australia under that name would be better called by either of its study names, "Alexandra Pink Tea" (Victoria) or "Isabel Smith" (Rookwood).
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 11 JAN 21 by Patricia Routley
I don’t think ‘Madame de Tartas’ is in Australia. You probably need to have a look at the separate file ‘Madame de Tartas (in Australia)’ (syn “Isabel Smith”) - that rose is a light pink tea with some habits similar to ‘Comtesse de Labarthe’.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 12 JAN 21 by Duchesse
Madame de Tartas is on the list at Reliable Roses, so I will enquire further to them about the colour of the rose, Thankyou.
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Discussion id : 121-838
most recent 29 MAY 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 MAY 20 by HubertG
It's interesting that this rose was listed in the Harkness catalogue as late as 1967. The only other Teas in that year's catalogue were 'Mrs Foley Hobbs' and the rarity 'Shirley Hibberd'. Perhaps, like them, 'Mme. de Tartas' had been been locally preserved in Hertfordshire and propagated by the nursery.
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Discussion id : 106-473
most recent 12 NOV 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 11 NOV 17 by Michael Garhart
When lineage is brought up, this rose doesn't seem to show Cecile Brunner and Anne de (forgot the rest) as descendents. Or maybe Im blind????
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 12 NOV 17 by Patricia Routley
You're not blind.
Cecile Brunner 1880. Parentage is shown as (Polyantha Alba plena x Mme de Tartas)
Mme de Tartas 1859. No descendants are shown

There is a problem. Admin might like to see previous comments 69-904.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 12 NOV 17 by Michael Garhart
Okay, glad Im not crazy.

I noticed when I tried to look up: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.17472.1

I also noticed that trying to search for Perle d'Or wouldnt come up in any combination I tried. I am not sure if it is because of language?? I dont know :[

I was on a 1800s polyantha research kick lol.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 12 NOV 17 by jedmar
Yes, AMdM didn't show up in the descendants of MdT either. I removed 'Madame de Tartas' as parent of 'Anne Marie de Montravel' and added it back in. Now it doers - so it seems the link was broken. My hypothesis: The link was possibly with 'Madame de Thartas' and got lost when I changed that spelling to hidden alias in 2015. To be checked.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 12 NOV 17 by Michael Garhart
Woohoo!
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