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Discussion id : 15-925
most recent 14 JAN 07 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 9 JAN 07 by Unregistered Guest

Here is another reference for Wildfeuer:


"Wildfeuer (W. Kordes & Sons 53) bushy, upright, 200cm, once-blooming, fiery red, sehr large flowers."


Source: "Die Rose - ihre Kultur und Verwendung", Mathias Tantau & Karl Weinhausen, Stuttgart, 1956

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Reply #1 of 4 posted 10 JAN 07 by Cass
Shrub is the only classification information for this rose. Is any class shown in this reference? Thanks.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 11 JAN 07 by Unregistered Guest

Wildfeuer is listed in a section titled Strauchrosen (Parkrosen), which means Shrub roses. So, unfortunately there is no botanical assignation.


In Modern Roses X, there is also a Wildfire (i.e. Wildfeuer in German) by Swim 1955, descent from World's Fair x Pinocchio, two Kordes roses. Flowers are bright red and single. Coincidence? Or di Kordes sell the rights to Armstrong Nursery and was Wildfeuer reintroduced as Wildfire two years later?


Strangely, Wildfeuer seems to be at the San Jose Heritage Gardens, but Wildfire not. Vice versa at Sangerhausen. Only Roseto Botanico Carla Fineschi lists both.


I have a suspicion.


 

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Reply #3 of 4 posted 11 JAN 07 by Cass
I share your suspicion. I shall try to track this through the American Rose Annuals of the period.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 14 JAN 07 by Cass
Our suspicions are unfounded. Herb Swim's 'Wildfire' was patented, PP 1381. We can now search for U.S. plant patents using Google, at this URL: http://www.google.com/patents. To use the patent number, one must enter PP or Plant Patent followed by the number without any leading zeroes. Searches using patent holder may be conducted at www.patentgenius.com.

Both 'Wildfire' and 'Wildfeuer' are in Modern Roses 6 in 1965 and do not share common descriptions. I've added those descriptions as references.
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