'Salita ®' rose reviews and comments

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'Salita ®' rose Reviews & Comments

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Discussion id : 47-390 most recent 14 days ago SHOW ALL

Initial post 9 AUG 10 by HMF supporting member

Jay-Jay

Reply #1 of 6 posted 9 AUG 10 by HMF supporting member

Margaret Furness

Reply #2 of 6 posted 10 AUG 10 by HMF supporting member

Jay-Jay

Reply #3 of 6 posted 18 NOV 10 by John Moody

Reply #4 of 6 posted 18 NOV 10 by HMF supporting member

Jay-Jay

Hello John,
Nice to get a reaction from You! Now there are two known sports of Salita that are (for now) not in trade! In the HMF database there are no descendants mentioned for this rose; so I suggest You to treat this rose with care (tlc) and maybe try to propagate the sport, to see how it behaves.
I fell for the bright colour of the normal Salita, but my sport is also a beauty with over 150 petals, the same good fragrance and at first the same colour that changes towards pink(-ish).
When it's behaviour is good, it will get a name and I might "give" it away for propagation to a befriended organic nursery. Maybe we could exchange budwood if the regulations allow it.
Good luck, Jay-Jay.

Reply #5 of 6 posted 19 NOV 10 by John Moody

Jay-Jay I would love to have some cuttings of your pink sport of Salita with the quartered blooms. They are quite interesting to look at to be sure. If mine continues to grow and bloom true on that cane next spring I will try to contact you again and maybe send you some cuttings of my orange quartered blooms as well. As you said, they are packed with petals to be sure!!
To those who don't know, a sport is a mutation of the original plant usually occuring on one cane of the bush with one or maybe two distinct differences from the original plant. It could be bloom color, form, petalage, fragrance, etc....anything about the bloom. Sometimes the mutation happens on and off again on the cane and that is considered an "UNSTABLE" sport. IF the mutation is consistantly shown it is considered "STABLE" and you may actually have a whole new rose bush!! They can be quite fun!! It is always fun to find them so keep your eyes peeled.
A good example is my HT Elina rose bush. Elina usually blooms a light cream to light yellow bloom but this past Spring I had a new basal cane come up from the bud union in the ground and there were deep golden yellow blooms opening from the buds. The color was dramatically different than the normal lighter colored Elina blooms. This continued for about 8 weeks and then the cane started throwing a few of the lighter normal colored blooms right along with the deep yellow blooms on the same stems. So, this turns out to be an unstable sport. It is very interesting to look at though but since it is unstable could never really be considered a "new" variety of rose. It gets about 75% dark golden yellow blooms and 25% lighter yellow/cream colored blooms. Still, it is fun to see. Peter Alonso is a master of finding sports on his roses and propagates them wonderfully.
One thing else quickly. While the outward appearance or "phenotype" of the plant changes in a sport mutation, the inner workings or "genotype" generally does not and the rose will breed like the original mother bush the rose sported from. So, breeding the new color or form of the sported flower usually does not work.
Blessings,
John
Blessings and good gardening,
John

Reply #6 of 6 posted 14 days ago by HMF supporting member

GoldBeardThePirate

Hello, that color is pure beauty! did you ever get it to propagate?	REPLY

Discussion id : 49-826 most recent 14 days ago SHOW ALL

Initial post 18 NOV 10 by John Moody

I planted a Salita climber in a 1/2 whiskey barrel in the Spring of 2009. It has grown like a monster! It is huge and just continues to grow like crazy. However, I have a problem with the climbing part. The canes are so stiff that even when brand new and supposedly supple they are too stiff to work with--not to mention thorny, LOL...anyway, the stems are quite thick and so stiff they just will not bend which of course affects the blooming. Climbers need the canes to grow horizontally so that they can put out their laterals where the blooming takes place. Otherwise they only tend to bloom at the end of the canes which is exactly what is happening with my Salita. So, I really don't get as many blooms as I think I really should be getting. The Spring flush is pretty good, but after that it is just hit and miss with it.
I must say that this is about the most vigorous adn healthy growing rose in my garden of 400+ roses. It never gets any disease at all and I never see any insect activity on it either. I have been trying to grow it on a trellis but I think I will move it and try to get it to grow on my rose shed aka "Rose Palace" where I think I can work with it easier and possibly train its' canes to grow horizontally and thus bloom more.
Any suggestions??
John

Reply #1 of 7 posted 19 NOV 10 by HMF supporting member

RoseBlush

Reply #2 of 7 posted 19 NOV 10 by HMF supporting member

HMF Admin

Reply #3 of 7 posted 19 NOV 10 by John Moody

Reply #4 of 7 posted 31 JUL 11 by HMF supporting member

Jay-Jay

John, my sport of Salita isn't stabile untill now! Some of the flowers are like the sport, some are just plain Salita! And that at the same cane/plant. Some get blue-ish and have a lot of petals; some only turn blue-ish without the many petals. Maybe after some selecting and budding, there might come out a stabile sport. At least I hope so.	REPLY

Reply #5 of 7 posted 3 AUG 11 by John Moody

Good luck with the sport. If it is as vigorous and healthy as the original Salita, it would make a wonderful free standing rose bush. Mine still isn't really much of a climber because of the super stiff canes that are just too hard to bend without breaking. But it makes a remarkable free-standing growing shrub and when in full bloom is surprising me with as many beautifully colored orange flowers as I am getting.
John

Reply #6 of 7 posted 3 AUG 11 by HMF supporting member

Jay-Jay

Could You upload some photo's of the complete freestanding plant? Here the conditions for Salita must be perfect, or it gets Blackspot. The new growth of mine is red and very tender/bendable.	REPLY

Reply #7 of 7 posted 27 SEP 13 by HMF supporting member

Jay-Jay

The sport still isn't stabile as for the colour and as for the petal count. But it is still a nice-one and I will keep it. Will update, when there is some news to tell. This year the flowers were quartered and petal count over 70.	REPLY

Reply #8 of 7 posted 14 days ago by HMF supporting member

GoldBeardThePirate

hello, I am many years tardy to this party but this is what my salt looks like every bloom. Is this similar to your sport? its seldom if ever not extremely full petaled and of a more quartered form. 99% of the time its singular bloom per stem. This is an aged bloom and appears more pink coral in photos than it is. when it first blooms its a rich true almost neon orange.	REPLY

Discussion id : 133-361 most recent 17 JUN 22 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 17 JUN 22 by HMF supporting member

Jay-Jay

This rose lasts very long in a vase.	REPLY

Discussion id : 125-222 most recent 23 JAN 21 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 23 JAN 21 by flowerchild75 - Zone 6a Missouri

My Salita has always been troublesome. Very stiff, inflexible canes...like, extremely. I wonder if mine wouldn't be better off grown as a large shrub. Has been very difficult to train. Only puts out one bloom, or if I am lucky two, each bloom cycle. I have had non-stop issues with black spot almost since the minute I first put her in the ground. She is planted in full sun on the south side of my house. Have tried everything...you name it and I have tried it, but nothing has fazed the black spot one bit. Thinking of maybe gifting it to my neighbor. Maybe she'll have better luck with it. For me, she is a lot more trouble than she is worth. I do have to say though, the blooms are an extremely bright combo of orange and red mixed together, and the form is very nice, but the black spot is out-of-control and creates an eyesore, distracting from the one or two blooms at a time that she does have. Zone 6a.

Reply #1 of 1 posted 23 JAN 21 by Duchesse

The plants sold as climbers should, I think, be labelled with the info on flexibility and diameter of canes. As a new rose grower myself (5 years) I have discovered Blossomtime and Queen Elizabeth to be beastly beauties. Have to catch the canes early to train, or forget it. I suppose the sellers dont much care about the end result as long as they sell plants, just lucky I have enough space for them to run wild if they want.