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'Mrs. Bryce Allan' rose Reviews & Comments
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Initial post 7 NOV 09 by Patricia Routley
Who was Mrs. Bryce Allan?
Reply #1 of 10 posted 8 NOV 09 by jedmar
A Captain Bryce Allan, steered the ship "Albion" from Scotland in 1847, and got stuck in the ice near Newfoundland, arriving at Quebec after 72 days only. Burke says:
"Bryce Allan of Aron House, Isle of Mull, formerly of Liverpool, shipowner....b. 1814...d. 1874, leaving issue....
Alexander Allan....hon. Sheriff for Argyll, b. 4 Nov 1844....d. 15 Dec. 1927, leaving issue. The only son,
Bryce Allan of Aros House, Isle of Mull, O.B.E. (1919)...colonel...light brigade...served in World War I...b. 2 June 1874...married 1stly 14 Feb 1900, Hilda Mary (d. 1 Aug. 1967), daughter of James H. Allan, of Shawley Wood House, Worcester...."
Second marriage was on 2 June 1928, so "Mrs. Bryce Allan" was Hilda Mary Allan, wife of Bryce Allan jun., Scottish landed gentry, grandon of the Captain...

G**e also says that Sotheby's sold in 1961 English, Continental and Chinese furniture the property of....Mrs. Bryce Allan...
Reply #2 of 10 posted 8 NOV 09 by Patricia Routley
Patricia, your articles should be collected in a book!

One point. Mrs. Bryce Allan oroginated from Worcester, but her husband is from Scotland.
Reply #4 of 10 posted 28 FEB by billy teabag
Yes! They should! But your Karri Pigeon articles are here, in refs and that is brilliant.
Would you consider posting a full list of the roses you have written about in the Karri Pigeon on your page?
Reply #5 of 10 posted 28 FEB by Patricia Routley
Thanks Billy. I briefly thought about a book, but HelpMefind suits me just fine.
I do miss doing the articles though - when you immerse yourself totally in one rose at a time, it seems to give you a greater love for its beauty and its history. Somehow other things in life overtook this brief spell with the pen.
I did have some sort of an index and have put it on my page.
Reply #6 of 10 posted 28 FEB by billy teabag
Thank you!
Reply #3 of 10 posted 9 NOV 09 by Patricia Routley

Thanks someone.
Reply #7 of 10 posted 28 FEB by Andrew from Dolton
Just re-read through Karri Pigeon again, such a wonderful mix of very familiar roses and complete unknowns. Educational as well as a great read.
Reply #8 of 10 posted 28 FEB by Patricia Routley
Thank you Andrew. I am very pleased you enjoyed them. As for the very familiar roses, I get the same impression when Jay-Jay talks about his roses. Over the other side of the world, we are all growing the same beautiful roses.
Reply #9 of 10 posted 1 MAR by Andrew from Dolton
It is fascinating to see how a variety of rose grows in different conditions around the world. However, one of the things that most surprised me when I joined HMF was all the different roses not grown in the U.K. There were suddenly all these unknown (to me) varieties grown in Europe, in America, in Asia and in the southern hemisphere.
Reply #10 of 10 posted 1 MAR by Margaret Furness
There are the roses bred locally, and there are survivors that originated in the UK or USA. David Ruston had a lot, including early Dickson HTs that aren't listed elsewhere now (which doesn't mean they're not out there somewhere).
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