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16 NOV 16 by
JM3
This is no longer for sale in the US, buy I'm willing to pay for a cutting. Does it perform reasonably on its own roots?
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Sometimes sold on Etsy for way overprice.
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#2 of 6 posted
3 DEC by
Lee H.
I’m beginning to believe that one can make a tidy side hustle with discontinued Austin roses. Same story with Jude the Obscure.
It’s only overpriced if you can’t find willing buyers…
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They seem to be quite the status symbol in some quarters. I wonder if the DA company will not live to regret its' aggressive culling policy.
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lol, I hope you live long enough to see that! They have been culling better roses for poorer roses since their early days, sometimes just to replace a pink rose on the market without patent protection with one that did get patented.
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Ding ding ding. Watch what Star does now that the KO patents will start to wane.
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just for the record and a bit off-topic, can you recommend good older DA cultivars that are worth to grow?
I kinda like their older ones anyway, Summer Song was quite new but stopped - one of my favourites still. i really don't have a problem with it as long as it's treated like a HT or floribunda, harder pruning etc
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I have grown both 'Pergolèse' and 'Rose de Rescht', both on their own roots, for several decades. While the blossoms are quite similar--not lookalikes, but quite similar--and both bloom gratifyingly throughout the year, 'Pergolèse' sends out suckers and runners with some frequency, and 'Rose de Rescht' never does, absolutely never (I wish it would!). (Before anyone says, "But my 'Rose de Rescht' sends out suckers abundantly!", be aware that it appears that many who have what they think is 'Rose de Rescht' actually have the suckering 'Rose du Roi'.) Also, 'Pergolèse' is taller, branches less, and has a looser, more open, habit than the bushy 'Rose de Rescht'.
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#1 of 2 posted
12 days ago by
Nastarana
My 'Pergolese', bought from a Canadian company, now closed, some years back, does repeat bloom. It stays short and, I rather think, it would prefer a less heavy soil.
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#2 of 2 posted
11 days ago by
Jay-Jay
I have definitely the rose on the right side as Rose de Rescht. Not the left-one... And it suckers! And definitely not Rose du Roi.
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PhotoDiscussion id : 166-790
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This cannot be the same rose as is shown in the other photos for Duchess d' Angouleme. Both flower shape and leaflets are substantially different.
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#1 of 1 posted
12 days ago by
pminor
Yes i think mislabeled i have deleted
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Available from - Lens Rose https://lens-roses.com/fr_FR/shop/belle-de-terre-franche-15065#:~:text=poudré%20au%20centre.-,Arbuste%20buissonnant%20et%20sain.
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#1 of 1 posted
12 days ago by
Nastarana
The listed parent, 'Belle Amour', is an alba, not a Gallica. Furthermore, foliage and growth habit in the photos looks a lot more like an alba hybrid than it does like a Gallica. Should this perhaps be classified as a hybrid alba?
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