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Initial post today by Nastarana
Available this year from Edmonds Roses.

The pictures show a stunning color.
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Initial post 30 APR 16 by Mikeb
I couldn't find much about "Lasting Love" weather zone.
How hardy this rose is? I see most comments from people in SO CA and TX, but does anyone grow it in the north- east?
Reply #1 of 4 posted 20 MAY by Michael Garhart
Considering each grandparent line is a "Peace type", probably similar to Peace.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 21 MAY by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I am in zone 5a, was about to order this rose since it has dark green & glossy foliage (best for alkaline clay), the hardiness is good, but this rose is sold as own-root in alkaline region (California), and won't do well for acidic soil. This review is from Dave's Garden, Wisconsin is in zone 5a:
On Dec 21, 2010, tgwWhale from Casco, WI wrote:

I had a Lasting Love for about two years. i didn't like it for two reasons. First, it was advertised when I bought it as a dark red rose, and it wasn't; the photos that appear in this web page are accurate in portraying the color. Second, the growth habit was poor. The stems were too short for good cut flower use, the flowers did not as a whole have good form, and often the flowers "balled up" and did not open. I culled it after two years." tgwWhale from Casco, WI
Reply #3 of 4 posted 4 days ago by Prosopis
I have carefully followed your suggestions on overwintering your roses on another forum; should like to ask what you consider to be YOUR hardiest fragrant red roses? I also live in a nominal 5a in Ithaca, NY outside the lake effect zone, in a microclimate with unexpected spring freezes that damage and kill young growth, especially mulched canes making vigorous new growth.

Plus, some of the own-root stock I have received from various vendors have been of mixed quality, some of the their certainly of much higher vigor than others. The Mother plants must be of declining vigor, or else they are supplying sickly liners. Both Vintage Roses and High Country have done this: some fine mixed in with weaklings that have never put on good growth. Logees also has this practice, with other species. So, one cannot truly say that they are supplying bad stock, but there is a let down, since one is paying about $15 plus S&H for rather small plants.

Madame Louise Laperriere is one I received from Vintage Roses and I thank them for stocking hard to find varieties, like Pink Radiance, another relatively rare one, a healthy liner. But the former never even began to grow cossetted indoors and out. I have spent my life as a NASA-CELSS researcher, and should have learned a thing or two about growing plants in controlled environments by now, one hopes. SO, not from the lack of care. Perhaps, some roses do better grafted.

Roses Unlimited sends only perfect plants perfectly packed, in my limited experience with them, but they have cut back on the older roses I love.

I have only purchased from Heirloom Roses when they were in their early stages, in Oregon, picking up the plants. The sizes and prices both have become too large for cross country shipment and for my wallet. Good selections for all the older classes.

Should love some advice on some of the better RED and fragrant roses that MIGHT survive out of doors in Zone 5a. Graham Stuart Thomas survived for many years, as a hardy perennial, coming back each year from the soil level and putting out a few flowers; very quaint and sweet, in its determination! Alec's Red, and Dickson's Red, Gruss an Teplitz, and a misnamed Griffith Buck grew well for some years before a hard winter took them out, despite heavy, careful protection. My fault for choosing tender types, and hence, need for better advice!

I have a raised bed 28 inches above the soil, composed of rotten oak, maple, leaves, ditto wheatstraw, some milled peat moss, some Promix, a little sterilized soil, all turned over until it feels good to my hands, slightly acidic, slightly shaded in the late afternoon, but sun again in evening. Excellent drainage assured. No nutritional issues that are noticeable, at least to me. May exist unbeknownst.

Try to have relatively lower leaf nitrogen levels, a practice we attempt on many fruit crops, and increase potassium levels. Watch how phosphate moves with the various phosphate species. As far as we can. Leaf color changes. And the various species of nitrogen and polyamines, as far as we can gauge their uptake by eye.

Alba semi-plena does very well, rude good health. Would love more and Gallica City of Brussels, which cannot find anywhere. Rugosas did well until an insect whose name I was told killed them all, along with a rosarian friend's wall of rugosas.

Thank you kindly.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 4 days ago by Nastarana
Have you consulted Der Rosenmeister, who must be very near you? Also, I understand the display gardens at Cornell are of great interest.

I am in Utica, a bit north and East of you, in a frost pocket beside the Mohawk River. For HTs I have had best results with the Tantau genetics. 'Fragrant Cloud', reliably grows back, as does its' descendent 'Velvet Fragrance'. Matthias Tantau, Jr. sold the nursery to Hans Jurgen Evers in 1985, I believe, and Hans has been succeeded by his son, Christian Evers. Mr. Evers, Sr. produced a red rose named 'Ascott', which has been receiving rave reviews on the gardenweb. I have not grown it, but you might want to research it.
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Initial post 4 days ago by Nastarana
Considering the testimony of Chill Out! Roses in the thread about Typhoo Tea, perhaps the hardiness rating for FC could be revised? I have also known FC to grow back after a zone 5 winter. It is not cane hardy, but the roots do seem to survive. My plant is grafted, but it was FC itself which returned in spring, and not the infamous doctor.
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Initial post 9 days ago by Roseraie "Roses de Normandie"
It would be very useful to remove from the "Buy from" section all the places of sale that no longer exist, for example the Fruitland and the John Saul nurseries, which are in fact archives from the 19th century!
They could be useful else where.
Daniel from Normandy
Reply #1 of 3 posted 9 days ago by Nastarana
Would it be too much work to have a separate, archive section. Or might it be easier to place historic archive nurseries after the listings of nurseries currently operating? I hasten to add that, naturally, admins cannot be expected to keep up with the current offerings of each and every nursery.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 5 days ago by Roseraie "Roses de Normandie"
I believe that data on old nurseries provide interesting information and could be included, if possible, in the "references" section. Their place is not adequate in the section "buy from" since we can no longer buy anything. So no need to create a new section.
Just a suggestion
Reply #3 of 3 posted 5 days ago by jedmar
Yes, that is possible. It will take some time though as we are very few.
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