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Discussion id : 107-268
most recent 31 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 31 DEC by GardenGal3 is not what it purports to be
Discussion id : 107-189
most recent 29 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 28 DEC by mariuvit
"Vedette" gained lots of prizes for its perfume but you describe it as having "none or mild"
Reply #1 of 3 posted 28 DEC by jedmar
We have corrected the fragrance to strong. However, we have no Information about prizes received by 'Vedette' or 'Eclat de Haute Bretagne'.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 29 DEC by mariuvit
This is what you can find in Nirp catalogue:
2004 Orleans France: Medaglia d'oro della città d'Orleans e Premio del Profumo
2004 Saint Albans GB: "Edland Prize" for the perfume + Certificato di merito
2011 Genova Euroflora: medaglia d'argento Premio del Profumo
I actually do not remember anything about Vedette perfume since it's been sold out for a few years, but it's included in the Nirp-parfum rose group
Reply #3 of 3 posted 29 DEC by jedmar
Thank you!
Discussion id : 107-184
most recent 28 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 27 DEC by JJS
Some corrections to my earlier comment:

I really don't understand this entry:

"According to Modern Roses 10, Ayrshire is a parent of 'Ayrshire Queen', which see. Ayrshire Rose represents a group composed of hybrids of R. arvensis, possibly with R. setigera or R. sempervirens. The original rose was grown from North American seeds around 1769."

1. As Lindley (1820) already points out wryly : The Ayrshire rose was not grown from North American seeds.

2. Ayreshire is not a parent of Ayrshire Queen (Thomas Rivers, 1835): the mother plant is Blush Ayrshire. Ayrshire Queen doesn't exist anymore though, its name is now sometimes used for Ayrshire splendens.

3. Why is Ayrshire Rose described as a group of roses? That doesn't really fit the format of HMF, where every single rose has its own description.

4. Where does R. setigera fits in? Who invented this?

I have before signaled (see Ayrshire splendens) that the treatment of the Ayrshire roses at HMF is somewhat of a mess. It would be nice if mistakes would be corrected.. For example, still photos of Ayrshire splendens are not Ayrshire splendens at all.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 28 DEC by jedmar
We are not botanists and only reflect published Information. When there is a new study on Ayrshire Roses, we will gladly add it to the references. The answers to your other questions you can find in the References. It seems that Lindley was repudiated by Sabine already in 1822. Personally, I think Lindley was a great simplifier, and many of his comments are outdated.
You can se that we list 'Ayrshire Queen' (in commerce) distinct from 'Ayrshire Queen' of Rivers. The former is not (yet) merged with 'Ayrshire Splendens' as again a proper comparison is missing. Much room for studies!
Discussion id : 106-840
most recent 6 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 6 DEC by Henry Kuska
The New Mexico link to rose mosaic virus information no longer works.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 6 DEC by Patricia Routley
Thank you Henry. I have left the information about the link there, but made a note that it no longer works.
Perhaps if anybody else can supply further information....
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