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Initial post today by scvirginia
Select Seeds offers this plant for sale, as of Spring, 2018:
https://www.selectseeds.com/rate-fragrant-flowers/clematis_new_love.aspx
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Discussion id : 110-072
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Initial post 2 days ago by Marlorena
I'm surprised to see this rose listed as a 'Tea'.. don't most people who know it think it's a China rose?
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 2 days ago by Patricia Routley
Looking at the nurseries, Angel Gardens and Antique Rose Emporium both call it a tea. La Roseraie du Desert list a climber called 'Odee's Pink Noisette'.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted yesterday by Marlorena
Thank you Patricia. I got mine from Roseraie in France, and it just surprises me that this rose can be thought of as either a Tea or Noisette. Not claiming to be an expert but it looks and behaves all China to my eyes. It's evergreen through my winter - Teas apart from Lady Hillingdon which seems to do as well here as anywhere, and Mme. Antoine Mari, are not the best for my climate, but Odee Pink sails through and blooms all summer.. just like China roses do for me.. It's also said to resemble the long lost China rose 'Irene Watts'...

I'm going to continue thinking of it as a China, as it just doesn't say 'Tea' to me... not yet.. and I don't see any sign of it becoming a climber in my conditions..

I see it was found in gardens in Texas, west of the Brazos river... I rather like that..
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Reply #3 of 4 posted today by Patricia Routley
Marlorena, perhaps you might like to query La Roseraie du Desert on their 'Odee's Pink Noisette' and whether it could be the same, or different from the one you purchased from them.

And take a look at the Australian foundling "Agnes Smith" to see if you see anything familiar in those photos.
I have a poor specimen of "Agnes Smith" and it has often struck me as having a good deal of china blood. Mine was so poor in fact, that in 2016 I thought I had better propagate it. The resulting three plants are doing very well (for my cool, acid soil conditions).
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Reply #4 of 4 posted today by HubertG
Just looking at the photos of 'Odee Pink', it doesn't look the same as 'Agnes Smith' to me.
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Discussion id : 110-052
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Initial post 2 days ago by Patricia Routley
Has anyone compared "Benny Lopez" (syn "Mystery Santa Barbara Rose") with "Old Town Novato" (syn "Jay's Hudson Perpetual")
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Reply #1 of 1 posted today by Nastarana
I doubt it. I think some CA gardeners grow both and would surely have noticed if the two cultivars were the same.

I have not seen tall arching growth nor does my plant sucker so far.
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Discussion id : 84-488
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Initial post 24 APR 15 by Warren Millington
Me too Margaret, but what gripes me is, for such an important date in our young culture , why they did not use a rose bred in Australian, by an Australian breeder. Its like seeing those stuffed souvenirs of Koalas and Kangaroos and you look at the label and its got made in China. I think the RSL got this very wrong this time.
Warren
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Reply #1 of 1 posted today by bonbon
Yes
Kordes also named a rose of theirs Kookaburra.
I am growing George Thomson's Fields iof Fromelle because the Western Front is very significant to many Australians and this rose is Australian bred.
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