Many thanks for that HubertG. I was remiss in only emboldening the name of 'Barcelona' in this file. I have now added the name to the list of possibles. Actually, because of Mrs. Martin senior's listing, I am very confident that this rose is in fact the original 'Barcelona'. However, when she planted the roses in 1959/1960, it is possible that there were misnamed roses coming out of the nurseries even then. I have corresponded with Kordes and recall that the thorns are a dead match with my rose, while their photos from old catalogues of 'Barcelona' were not really helpful in that the printing process at that time rendered all red roses, the same red colour. I have today uploaded the 'Barcelona' photo from Sangerhausen.

I do have the so-called 'Francis Dubreuil' in the same bed as "David Martin's No. 41" and they are different roses. However they are not planted alongside each other but are about 4 or 5 metres apart. "David Martin's No. 41" is a strong, sturdy, long-stemmed upright hybrid tea just as 'Barcelona' was described when it first came out. I have sent budwood of "David Martin's No. 41" for the Ruston garden in past years but it was thrown out because it was showing signs of leaf virus. This year budwood was sent to Perth and is now intended for the Stirling Square garden in Guildford. Both David Martin and I have ordered a plant each and I look forward to seeing it grow on fortuniana rootstock. I would love to see if others see that scarlet center in hot weather that I usually see only in the heat of summer.

Will we be meeting you at the November 2018 Heritage Rose conference in Albany, W.A.? I could take you to this Martin garden and show you this old rose. I strongly advised the conference organisers to include this treasure collection of classic old hybrid teas, but they only drove past, saw a straight line of hybrid teas and rejected it. The whole garden is a significant example of private conservation.