Another one that came "late" to the orange hype of late 50's-early 70's yet was the only one, other than its parent Tropicana, to get EXTREME exposure. Grew this in late 70's in Chico, CA and wow and yes, this one does get tall! It is a thorny beast, too, as so many oranges are. It marginally was an improvement over its other parent, Hawaii, has the same gorgeous star shaped blooms but on a far stronger plant but yes, it still mildews (seems to be a huge and never-ended issue with Tropicana seedlings) and also blackspots (comes with the color). NOW this one is barely available and I have 2 maidens of it and looking forward to seeing it again..................for anyone who has ever craved ORANGE and a FORMAL bloom, this is an option if you can get it. This one looks, bloom wise, a lot like BIENVENU and of the 2, Bienvenu should have won the AARS but Bienvenu got saddled with that "death knell" GR classification in 1969 and was released in a year where AARS more or less got it "right" (although COMANCHE, GR as well, over Bienvenu is really funny)............ and this one got HT although they both tend to bloom ONE per fat, thorny stem and get BIG, even in a colder climate...............in 2013 this color seems outdated although so many people I know claim to "love" orange roses...............