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"Altadena Drive Pink HP" rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 70-013
most recent 21 FEB SHOW ALL
Initial post 11 FEB 13 by timdufelmeier
THE best HP in Los Angeles. It even reblooms throughout the year, even in winter, and if you don't bother to dead head it. It has long cutting stems with few thorns, quite unlike most HPs . I found it on 8th Street near McArthur Park in the oldest part of the city. It formed a nine foot tall hedge that was 10 ft wide growing in a neglected patch inside a gravel parking lot/yard in front of a decrepit old Victorian house that has been split into 15 units. It smells just like Jadis (Fragrant Memory.) Does not sucker much but roots easily. Beautiful self supporting giant canes with huge leaves. I believe that Kim was calling it Mrs Sharmon Crawford at that time (1991) I brought a slip to the Huntington for him to identify. Reblooms better than any HP or tea that I know of.
Reply #1 of 7 posted 26 MAR 17 by Jeri Jennings
Tim -- The original discovery of this rose was made in Altadena, CA, but I did not know that "Grandmother's Hat" had been found in Los Angeles!

I have often speculated that the old homes in that area might yield some interesting discoveries, and I'm interested to know that they have.
Reply #2 of 7 posted 20 FEB by Michael Garhart
Rosa canina is wild here in NW Oregon, and you can see some growing with with patches of daffodils and in curious patterns in the wild (rectangles). In other words, it was the root stock of some very old roses planted around homesteads. There are likely some roses up here hiding away in the woods that are OGRs and similar.
Reply #3 of 7 posted 20 FEB by Jeri Jennings
But "Grandmother's Hat" is not R. canina.
Reply #4 of 7 posted 20 FEB by Michael Garhart
I know. I was responding to:

"I have often speculated that the old homes in that area might yield some interesting discoveries."

Meaning, there still could be things out there we haven't discovered EVEN up north (along the entire coast).

Rosa canina just signifies that there was a lot of roses planted in the areas, because it was the rootstock.
Reply #5 of 7 posted 21 FEB by Jeri Jennings
You know, in Southern CA, I don't think there was a lot of R. canina -- what there WAS, providentially, was a lot of Fortuniana, and a lot of Ragged Robin. And as it happens, those are things that are still great roses here.

But your point is well taken.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 21 FEB by Michael Garhart
I found New Dawn in a forest once. In the middle of nowhere lol. I also found some sort of OGR rambler in the forests of Vernonia, OR. I couldn't ID it. Almost looked like Baltimore Belle.

Like, literally in the nowhere in temperate rainforests lol.
Reply #7 of 7 posted 21 FEB by Jeri Jennings
Usually, when you find something like that, it means that there was a house there once -- or at least a business. At least, in CA it does. Black locust trees where pioneers settled. Tree of Heaven where there were Chinese. At an old old stage stop in the Sierra Foothills, we found [probably] 'Hermosa', and a Mission fig tree!
Discussion id : 110-736
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Initial post 14 MAY 18 by Claire C
Available from - Annie's Annuals and Perennials
Discussion id : 98-692
most recent 24 APR 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 24 APR 17 by Nastarana
"Grandmother's Hat is available spring 2017 from Annie's Annuals, retail and mail order in Richmond, CA
Discussion id : 87-431
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Initial post 20 AUG 15 by Salix
Very sticky, fragrant foliage.
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