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Discussion id : 107-649
most recent 29 JAN 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 JAN 18 by CybeRose
Arisumi: Rosa Pigments (1963, 1964)
Another line of approach to the so-called blue roses have been substantiated by "Grey Pearl" which was introduced in 1944. The pigment participated showed complete peculiarities in their chemical behaviours, as they could not been extracted either by the hydrochloric acid or the petroleum ether. Repeated treatments with these solvents could dissolve out the ordinary anthocyanin and carotenoid from the petals of "Grey Pearl", so that the remnant has shown the beautiful bluish tinge. But it was rather lavender and far from the true blueness. From the offsprings of "Grey Pearl" we have reached to "Sterling Silver", which is considered to be the most successful performance of this colour range, but there is no discrimination between the intact petals of "Sterling Silver" and those of "Grey Pearl", from which co-existing anthocyanin and carotenoid were fully removed. Thus we may conclude that the endeavours to produce true blue rose have been directed to eliminate the contaminative pigments from "Grey Pearl", which disturb the effect of the above undefined lavender pigment.
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Discussion id : 64-801
most recent 4 JUN 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 JUN 12 by goncmg
Got 2 bands from Rogue this spring............put them in one pot..............spray them until and inch of their lives and feed them insanely.................they are about to bloom like mad and I KNOW I should not allow these blossoms but I cannot control myself.....................oh, did I mention???? They are growing OUT not UP...............the two bands are maybe 3 inches high, not a joke, maybe even less..............all their growth has been thrown out sideways like Aztec from 1957...........................they DO respond to over-feeding for sure....................there are 9 buds between the 2 of them.............cannot wait, irresponsible as that may be.................

****Well, yeah, sigh.............I let em bloom too much and got cocky and the result? Somehow in a chilled yet insulated garage this winter they both went to the great rose field in the sky. Have never lost a plant in this garage storage set-up. Won't replace them. Was fun to see what caused such a sensation 70 years ago but truly not an attractive variety...........that brown-muddy that is all in the lilac is oddly close to Kokoloko (or vice versa).............I fall in and out of love with this color and truly there are so many, MANY better ones out there..........glad it is still around, it is so important, but far better suited for a more patient, less tough love sort of collector than I..................
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Discussion id : 61-353
most recent 22 JAN 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 22 JAN 12 by Kim Rupert
From the 1952 Roses of Yesterday and Today catalog:

Grey Pearl. The catalog-writer is embarrassed. From first mention in edition 1949-1950 we have been promising Grey Pearl to a steadily increasing number of customers and have delivered a few, -- but the list grows faster than our supplies and we must again retire behind a barrage of ifs, buts, howevers, and never-the-lesses--at least until the harvest count is available in December. Grey Peal has the distinction(?) of bearing the lowest ARS rating in America -- a "smashing" 38%, but The Pearl's friend, Walter Bauer of Bremen, Indiana has a comback, --"I believe the reason so many do not like it, is too much rain on the ready-to-open bud. Just now, after a rainless period my flowers are perfect,-- a hot, dry climate for Grey Pearl." And Harris Darcy of Austin, Texas (where it is "hot and dry"), calls it his "Mona Lisa." And again from San Marino, California, --"Even my over-active imagination could not conjure up anything so lovely."

As for the catalog-writer, national rating notwithstanding, he's still waiting to pin one of these pale lavender-grey roses on a black draped shoulder. Needed now, only the lovely (and willing!) lady! $2.50
Later--at the Tulsa ARS convention, --I found her, Mrs. William H. Bies of St Louis.
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Discussion id : 20-981
most recent 26 SEP 11 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 21 AUG 07 by Paul Barden
Make sure you obtain a plant budded to a strong rootstock, like R. multiflora or similar. This is NOT an easy plant to grow well and requires regular spraying to prevent disease, and it also needs regular, fairly heavy Nitrogen feeding. Don't Winter prune it as hard as you would other HT's or it will sulk and possibly die: leave at least 2/3 of its existing cane length, and occasionally retire one or two of its older canes completely.

'Grey Pearl' is an awkward grower and usually remains under 3 feet and rather gawky in habit. If you can overlook its flaws and give it the best of care, you will be rewarded with some of the finest dove-grey blooms you have ever seen. There's no other rose quite like it.
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 2 OCT 07 by Unregistered Guest
My budded plant is now finishing its third year and I can endorse everything the previous post mentioned. This is the first year that the plant has seemed as though it wanted to grow and is now about 2 feet high and just as wide. I found that using an organic fertilizer every six weeks since spring has made a great difference but the plant will always be finicky. Let's hope this winter doesnt reverse the gains it made this growing season!
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 24 SEP 11 by Blue Zinnia
Well, bleep. (rueful grin) I'm a disabled gardener with limited stamina, and I generally find it best to avoid anything too fussy (though this one's tempting anyway). Let me ask: What rose that isn't such a diva comes closest to these colors and this form? I've been drooling over pics of, for instance, Cafe, but can't tell how close it comes. PS--Mr. Barden, how nice to find you here. I'm a big fan of your work, especially with dark roses (Tuscany is my favorite rose of all, ever, amen, so you gotta know I love the Nightmoss roses.)
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 25 SEP 11 by Kim Rupert
Grey Dawn is the closest I've yet grown to providing all the colors, tints and shades possible in Grey Pearl and it is SIGNIFICANTLY easier to grow.
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 24 SEP 11 by Blue Zinnia
Well, bleep. (rueful grin) I'm a disabled gardener with limited stamina, and I generally find it best to avoid anything too fussy (though this one's tempting anyway). Let me ask: What rose that isn't such a diva comes closest to these colors and this form? I've been drooling over pics of, for instance, Cafe, but can't tell how close it comes to the Mouse. PS--Mr. Barden, how nice to find you here. I'm a big fan of your work, especially with dark roses (Tuscany is my favorite rose of all, ever, amen, so you gotta know I love the Nightmoss roses.)
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 25 SEP 11 by RoseBlush
You might try growing 'Silver Cloud', bred by Ralph Moore. It has been a trouble-free rose in my garden in the mountains of northern California.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 25 SEP 11 by Kim Rupert
Silver Cloud is a good plant and an attractive flower. I loved it long before Sequoia finally introduced it. However, the closest to Grey Pearl remains Grey Dawn.
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 25 SEP 11 by RoseBlush
Kim.........true, but SC is a good rose.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 26 SEP 11 by Kim Rupert
That's what I've said.
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