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'Madame Alfred Carrière' rose Reviews & Comments
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Hello,
That’s curious that there is not mention that rose is thornless or almost, because this is noticed in nearly all nursery site or place where it can be bought. Is it possible to correct that ?
Thank you very much!
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#1 of 3 posted
20 AUG by
jedmar
It is not thornless, the sites are wrong. You can see prickles even in the April 1886 illustration from Journal des Roses.
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Haa
Effectively
Thank you!
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#3 of 3 posted
24 AUG by
Jay-Jay
Some canes are almost without prickles, others are armed... on the same plant. At least over here.
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I'm wondering if Madame Alfred Carrièrecan be grown as a large shrub? Thank you.
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I have only ever grown it on a strong supporting structure, something it seems to need because it makes such long growth, and I can't recall seeing it grown as a shrub or hedge. I haven't tried to keep it lower or more compact but perhaps others have and will be able to advise how it responded.
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Thank you for sharing your experience. It does sound like it needs support.
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When I was living in San Diego 25 years ago there was a huge free standing MAC in the Quail botanical garden. The plant must have been many decades old and really impressed me with its size and its attractive overall shape.
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With this rose i have every year a problem with mildew
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The main page says this rose is susceptible to mildew, but I suspect that may be only in some areas. (It does not mildew in my garden). You could try a little more water. In RESOURCES / GLOSSARY / MILDEW Graeme Stuart Thomas has written “Mildew is more often caused by dry soil and damp air than by soil deficiencies.”
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#2 of 3 posted
22 JUL 20 by
Gdisaz10
Ok, thanks. I'll try.
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#3 of 3 posted
3 JUL 21 by
Gdisaz10
Even this year, despite the special care and attention, the rose presents the problem of powdery mildew and black spot. Numerous branches have dried up and I had to prune it drastically. Out of curiosity I tried to put another one in full sun, but alas it presents the same situation. The worst rose in the garden! As soon as the temperatures allow it, I will have it replaced with an Allister stella gray.
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This developed maroon-purple blotches on the south-facing sides of it's canes after hot dry Santa Ana winds. Location east of Los Angeles, in southern California. I had assumed this was sunscald, but now I'm wondering. Most sunscald I've seen is an ugly dark brown whereas this looks more like a change in pigment. The two plants are being grown under normal rose conditions (well-watered, lots of compost).
Does anyone know if this is a normal, healthy response to hot/dry conditions for this plant, or is it wishful thinking and do I actually have unhealthy sunscald//need to protect the plants more????
Thanks, Nate
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28 DEC 19 by
Jay-Jay
Can You post some photo's of that? I know these blotches on stems from downy mildew. Posted some photo's of that at the "Member Comments" on the rose Home Run Discussion id : 89-548
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Jay Jay, looked at your photos of the Home Run canes. Nope, not that. Patches are much bigger and cover the sides of canes facing the sun--north side remains green. Patches are a more pronounced color than the patches on your canes.
Sorry, lost my camera dongle that transfers photos to my computer--will post when I get a new one.
I believe what I'm seeing is "cauline anthocyanin" protecting the canes--just as in Red-twig dogwood developing bright bark colors in full sun in winter. However, with Mme. A. C. it occurred under blasting hot sun rather than icy winter sun. The pigment on Mme. A. C. is also less bright.
Thanks Jay Jay!!!!
Nate
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#3 of 7 posted
29 DEC 19 by
Jay-Jay
You're welcome Nate! And in advance I wish You and the other HMF(family)-members: A Very Good New Year's Eve!
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#4 of 7 posted
29 DEC 19 by
Jay-Jay
A red colored stem like this flower-stem? https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.299467
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Thanks Jay Jay Happy New Years to you and yours!!!! Yes, it's the same color as in the photo. Nate
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It would definitely help seeing photos of what you are describing, but I'm wondering if it's the normal winter sun response? MANY of my roses are demonstrating the "purple to maroon" sun side coloring while the opposite sides of the canes remain green. It isn't a disease nor is it "damage", but the normal response to the temperatures and sun intensity. It doesn't inhibit their abilities to perform their functions.
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Thanks Kim! Yes, I'll post when i get the dongle. I'm a beginner still, not familiar with the winter sun response. I believe it occurred after the severe Santa Ana winds (for those unfamiliar, warm, very dry winds) in October. October 31 had a dewpoint of -7 Fahrenheit/-14 Celsius at the garden in question (relative humidity of 3%).
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