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'Madame Alfred Carrière' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 114-060
most recent 16 NOV HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 NOV by Jay-Jay
I would say, that the zoning might be altered in 6a - 10b. It performs very well over here!
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 16 NOV by Patricia Routley
Altered. Thanks Jay-Jay.
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Discussion id : 113-765
most recent 28 OCT HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 OCT by John Hook
I think this rose may be closely related to 'Humes Blush'. The scent is very similar along with the flowers.
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Discussion id : 54-760
most recent 8 OCT SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 3 JUN 11 by Jay-Jay
The fragrance of this rose contains (in my opinion) Elder-blossom elements. In the whole a very interesting and nice medium to strong fragrance.
The flower however can better stay on the plant, because it has almost no vase-life.
My Mme. A. Carrière reached the height of almost 4 m. in less than two years. And that on a partially shaded spot!
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Reply #1 of 22 posted 1 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thanks for the info. I'm searching for a HUGE rose that is shade tolerant & fragrant to block out my new neighbor with a barking dog.
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Reply #2 of 22 posted 1 AUG 17 by Jay-Jay
I believe that no rose will do the trick for that purpose!
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Reply #3 of 22 posted 1 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I hope for once-bloomer & shade-tolerant & FRAGRANT & HUGE rose. I have 20+ trees around my yard to block, just this one gap that I want to put a rose in.
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Reply #4 of 22 posted 1 AUG 17 by Andrew from Dolton
Rosa canina?
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Reply #5 of 22 posted 1 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Andrew: Thank you, canina is HUGE, from 4 feet to 16 feet .. that's perfect.
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Reply #6 of 22 posted 2 AUG 17 by Margaret Furness
But, but, but. It's bird-spread, and is a declared pest plant in parts of Australia. And it's not all that fragrant. I think Andrew was making a joke re the name, not a serious suggestion.
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Reply #7 of 22 posted 2 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Margaret: Thanks, that got me laughing. Without Andrew, HMF would be utterly boring.
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Reply #8 of 22 posted 2 AUG 17 by Andrew from Dolton
I was indeed being facetious and Margaret very rightly points out that it is an aggressively invasive alien species in various locations around the world, beautiful though it is.
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Reply #9 of 22 posted 2 AUG 17 by Jay-Jay
If You must, You might try Scharlachglut, if You wouldn't mind the prickles... or Easlea's Golden Rambler, but that-one might develop bare legs. Why not Ghislaine de Féligonde (not very fragrant). Abraham Darby performs well in a (partial) shady spot, gets huge and is very fragrant. But as for the barking dog: Try talking to the neighbor.
And Rosa canina = Dog's Rose. (Canine)
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Reply #10 of 22 posted 2 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Jay-jay: Thank you for excellent tips. I had seen Abraham Darby (grafted) taller than my husband (he's 6 feet).
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Reply #11 of 22 posted 2 AUG 17 by Jay-Jay
I'm like that size and mine (A.D.) grafted is more than twice as large!
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Reply #12 of 22 posted 4 AUG 17 by Nastarana
"Jeremiah Pink" a found rose from High Country Roses has gotten huge in my yard, zone 5a, acid, heavy soil. It blooms once and the flowers are lovely, double pink with a touch of salmon, about 3" in dia. Makes a spectacular display in June. HCR calls it an alba, although the foliage is smaller, more rounded and more grassy green than the typical alba. Does tolerate in part shade in my yard. I think it is NOT "Banshee", but I suspect it might be identical with a rose found growing in Montana.
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Reply #13 of 22 posted 4 AUG 17 by Patricia Routley
Nastarana, did you mean to put your comment under 'Mme. Alfred Carriere' or "Jeremiah Pink"?
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Reply #16 of 22 posted 5 AUG 17 by Nastarana
My reply was to answer Straw about a possible candidate for her site.
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Reply #14 of 22 posted 4 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you, Nastarana for the info. on Jeremiah Pink. High Country roses is my favorite nursery, such nice folks. Will have to make my soil loamy & acidic for any alba rose. Sometimes I double-post my comment: one inside a discussion, then the same comment inside a specific rose.
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Reply #15 of 22 posted 4 AUG 17 by Andrew from Dolton
Rosa 'Alba Maxima' will grow well on dry chalky alkali soil.
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Reply #17 of 22 posted 5 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Question for anyone: Does Alba class has "wafting scent" like "musk" roses? Or do you have to stick your nose close to sniff? It's heaven to walk pass a rose and can smell the perfume in the air, or open the window at night to smell the scent drifting inside. That's magical. There are only 5 roses in my garden that can carry the scent in the air: Marie pavie, Marie Daly, Perle d'Or, Excellenz von Schubert (these are hybrid musk), and Mary Magdalene (Austin rose with a wafting Frankincense/myrrh scent) .. but these are small bushes. Does a larger bush carry a wafting scent further with more blooms?
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Reply #18 of 22 posted 8 OCT by Andrew from Dolton
It is like elder flower cordial.
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Reply #19 of 22 posted 8 OCT by Jay-Jay
What's cordial? I know some drink mixed (alcoholic) beverages in the UK with Elder Flower.
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Reply #20 of 22 posted 8 OCT by Andrew from Dolton
There is a very refreshing drink sometimes called elder flower champagne, very popular in Romania and called socata. You put in a bucket with some lemon juice and sugar then fill up with boiling water. Wait until it cools to luke warm then add the elder flowers and cover it. Stir the mixture every day and after (depending on how warm it is) three to five days you will start to see little bubbles forming. Strain the liquid and put in to 2 Litre plastic cola or other fizzy drink bottles. Then check every day and you will find the bottles become hard, because of all the gas. It is a very nice drink, served very cold it is just very mildly alcoholic even a child could drink it.
The cordial is a drink made by boiling the flowers in a lot of sugar. You would drink it by putting about 50ML in a half litre glass and filling the rest with water. It is very nice if you put the same amount of gin as cordial then fill the rest of the glass with tonic water and add a slice of lemon. It is divine drunk on a warm summer evening when the honeysuckle, elder flowers and of course the roses fill the air with the most magical fragrance.
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Reply #21 of 22 posted 8 OCT by Jay-Jay
We have a slightly different recipe for(champagne) Elderflower lemonade, but it is similarly made. Last year I added fragrant rose flowers to the mixture. And no, not pouring boiling water on the elder-flowers, but boiled water with dissolved sugar and lemon juice in it... and cooled down to 25°C. Or else You would kill the yeast living on the elder flowers.
Also a syrup can be made with lemons and lemon zest and can be drunk hot in winter and cold in the summer with bubble water or cold tap-water.
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Reply #22 of 22 posted 8 OCT by Andrew from Dolton
Oh yes, I had forgotten about the elderflowers and hot water, and I have now altered what I originally wrote. I have a cut leaved elder, f.laciniata, with Rosa arvensis and 'New Dawn' rambling through it. They all flower together and look really beautiful.
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Discussion id : 100-504
most recent 6 JUN 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 JUN 17 by Andrew from Dolton
This rose experienced two hard air frosts at the end of April. Whilst it did not damage any of the new growth every bud developed to the stage of almost opening, and then fell off.
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