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'Summer Song' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 105-318
most recent 5 SEP 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 5 SEP 17 by Puns 'n' Roses
Summer Song is a really special rose in a rare colour. That said, I really hate these secretive "seedling x seedling" statements. Mr Austin did not invent roses, he built upon the works of others, who themselves have been building upon the works of others for generations. Nobody can make me believe Mr Austin got Summer Song as a chance seedling with unknown parentage. By not disclosing the parentage, he wants to prevent others from going down the same road in hybridising.
Of course it's not only an Austin phenomenon, and part of my argument is vain because I can use Summer Song itself in hybridising, but I still find this kind of non-disclosure irritating to say the least.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 5 SEP 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
It would be fun to guess the parentage. I grow two own-root Pat Austin with shiny & glossy foliage, and I can see some Pat Austin in pictures of Summer Song's leaves. Pat is a water-hog and can't take full-sun & best in 4 hours of morning sun. Pat Austin has a mango scent (like Summer Song). Another rose that might be in Summer Song's parentage is Geranium Red (amazing scent & many petals, but wimpy).
The glossy-foliage like Summer Song and Pat Austin need alkaline minerals & shade and constant wetness more than others, in my experience of growing 110+ OWN-ROOT roses.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 5 SEP 17 by Nastarana
The habit of not disclosing parentage is particularly annoying for us who garden in difficult climates because it prevents us from studying lineages to help us determine whether a cultivar can thrive in our climate and soil conditions. It does help a little to know in which of his five categories Austin places his roses, but even that information is not always or often included in nursery descriptions.
Discussion id : 96-146
most recent 3 DEC 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 3 DEC 16 by Andrew from Dolton
Sometimes this rose smells very strong, other times hardly anything at all. It does not seem to matter on the age of the bloom or weather conditions or time of day it randomly gives my nose all or nothing. When it does fickley decide to realise some fragrance it is truly ravishing.
Discussion id : 95-904
most recent 16 NOV 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 16 NOV 16 by JM3
This is no longer for sale in the US, buy I'm willing to pay for a cutting. Does it perform reasonably on its own roots?
Discussion id : 90-124
most recent 4 JAN 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 4 JAN 16 by Poesie

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