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'Opal Brunner' rose Reviews & Comments
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13 FEB 22 by
 Patricia Routley
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Photographs this morning of ‘Opal Brunner’ had me looking it up. I was struck by the dates of these two:
Improved Cécile Brünner Bred by Carl G. Duehrsen (United States, 1948).
Opal Brunner. Bred by O.C. Marshall (United States, circa 1948).
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#1 of 4 posted
15 FEB 22 by
Nastarana
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The photos look nothing like Cecile, and on the evidence of those photos, not having seen Opal, I would not call it an improvement at all.
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#2 of 4 posted
15 FEB 22 by
Margaret Furness
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Those who grow Improved CB say it's a very good garden and floristry rose: but CB is two generations (at least) back in its ancestry. Which is more than can be said for Red Pierre re Pierre de Ronsard.
The parentage of Opal Brunner, which is a different rose from Improved CB, isn't stated.
I don't think highly of marketing ploys.
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#3 of 4 posted
16 FEB 22 by
Patricia Routley
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I wondered if there might have been any faint hint to ‘Mme Jules Thibard’ (always keep my eyes open for that) in any of the ‘Opal Brunner’ references. But no. I managed to add just three references to ‘Opal Brunner’ but there was no comment anywhere on the parentage, nor the same 1948 year as ‘Improved Cecle Brunner’. The breeders lived about 332 miles apart.
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#4 of 4 posted
16 FEB 22 by
Kim Rupert
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Opal is a VERY different sort of plant from all of the Cecile clan. Imagine a hybrid musk plant, climbing (if supported) or an arching, floppy, free-standing shrub which flowers incessantly from spring through fall. I grew it free standing in the old Newhall garden. I "rescued" it from the Huntington Study Plot where the roses which didn't fit in the main rose garden, the once flowering types and those under study were kept. It was pretty much where the new Chinese Pavilion sits. Improved Cecile Brunner was, of course, a play to capitalize on the CB name for a larger flowered "hybrid polyantha". Both are really pretty nice roses for their periods but no real competition for the Mademoiselle.
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10 JAN 11 by
Kim Rupert
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This is a rose I resurrected from the Study Plot at the Huntington Library years ago. It wasn't offered commercially anywhere at the time, so I made sure to get it propagated and spread around. It is very fragrant and in the mid desert here in SoCal, totally disease free. The plant is almost totally thornless, ever blooming and gracefully arching when allowed to grow as it wants. It can easily be trained as a climber if you choose. It is also as shade tolerant as any other "Hybrid Musk", no matter what its official classification. For something different from everything your friends and neighbors grow, try Opal. She's a love! I know Burlington Roses has it available as I just bought it from her this week.
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#1 of 4 posted
21 JAN 11 by
Landperson
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Opal has suffered from years of poor pruning practices (ppp) and she still forgives me and blooms her pretty little head off every year. On her own roots from Vintage Gardens, she shares coverage of a deck on the west side of the house with Climbing Lady Hillington, Renae, Frau Eva Schubert, and E. Veryat Hermanos.
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#2 of 4 posted
21 JAN 11 by
Kim Rupert
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Oh, I'm glad you have her! She's definitely one to be used for breeding as well as just enjoying.
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#3 of 4 posted
18 JUL 15 by
styrax
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Perfect! I extended my rose plot a wee bit, and part of it IS shaded, and I do breed a bit... Have you raised seedlings yet, Kim?
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#4 of 4 posted
18 JUL 15 by
Kim Rupert
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No, I've not raised anything from Opal. I found her a new, loving home and chose not to bring her with me to the coast. I feared this climate might encourage her to mildew and with the extreme UV, I was concerned about the fragility of the petals. I still feel she's a wonderful rose and something others might find some beneficial traits to mine. Just not for my conditions and goals.
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