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'Rosette Delizy' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 115-904
most recent 29 MAR 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 MAR 19 by Give me caffeine
I'm finding this one to be almost completely thornless. It does a have a few, generally around 1 cm along their bases, but they are very sparse indeed. Most of the bush, currently around 1.7 metres high and wide, seems to no thorns at all.

Has anyone else noticed this?
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 28 MAR 19 by Patricia Routley
Yes. The book Tea Roses. Old Roses For Warm Gardens p1174 says ‘Rosette Delizy’ prickles few, mostly on older branches.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 28 MAR 19 by Give me caffeine
Ah. Been ages since I looked at that book, and couldn't remember the details.
I have come to the conclusion that the less spikey a rose is, the more I like it. :)
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 29 MAR 19 by Give me caffeine
Might be worth tagging this one as "Thornless, or almost", since it seems to be less jaggy than some which already have that tag. IMO it's easier to work around than Cecile Brunner, for example.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 29 MAR 19 by Patricia Routley
Definitely! I just walked out to double check with my plant, and yep, almost thornless. I should have changed it before. Thanks for keeping us on the ball Give me caffeine.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 29 MAR 19 by Give me caffeine
Hardly keeping you on the ball. I haven't been active here for some time, and I only noticed all the relative thorniness of my monsters because I've finally got around to doing a big clean up on them.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 29 MAR 19 by Patricia Routley
Very happy to see your name again.
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Discussion id : 114-731
most recent 3 JAN 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 2 JAN 19 by HubertG
I wonder whether the pollen parent to 'Rosette Delizy' should be 'Comtesse de Bardi' (Nabonnand, 1899) and not 'Comtesse Bardi' (Soupert & Notting, 1895). It makes more sense that Nabonnand might use his own rose. Also the Rosenlexikon reference gives "Ctsse de Bardy" as the pollen parent.

Edited to add: I just realised the same confusion probably applies to 'Anne Leygues' too.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 2 JAN 19 by Patricia Routley
Oh, how did we all miss that. It certainly makes sense HubertG. I wonder what parentage the Nabonnand Society show. I will change the parentage tomorrow if nobody has any objections.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 3 JAN 19 by HubertG
Les Amis de Roses Nabonnand have "Général Gallieni x Comtesse de Bardy" as its parentage, but they also have a listing for "Comtesse de Bardi" spelt with the 'i'.

A quick internet search suggests the correct name of the countess at least is Comtesse de Bardi. There is a RosenZeitung entry for 1899 as "Comtesse de Bardi", which I'll add later on.

I would suggest the correct name for the rose is 'Comtesse de Bardi'.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 3 JAN 19 by Patricia Routley
Parentage now changed from
Comtesse Bardi (tea, Soupert & Notting, 1895) to
Comtesse de Bardi (tea, Nabonnand, 1899)
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Discussion id : 94-597
most recent 28 AUG 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 AUG 16 by Margaret Furness
Evergreen in zone 9b.
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Discussion id : 23-202
most recent 24 DEC 07 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 DEC 07 by Unregistered Guest
I own several tea roses and this one is in my top three. It blooms constantly and I can always cut a bouquet for my table. The colors are beautiful - so many different ones on the same flower. The flower form is quite pretty for a tea rose. No disease ever, no insect problems and extremely carefree. No problem blooming in 100 degree weather in the summer, and blooms at Christmas time here in Houston. I don't understand why this rose isn't more popular. It is the perfect rosebush.
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