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'Rosette Delizy' rose Reviews & Comments
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Has anyone grown this rose in a pot and if so for how long? Thanks.
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If you haven’t got the room but would like to grow the rose, yes, put it in a pot and perhaps every five years strike another cutting to replace it if it seems strangled. Rosette Delizy grows well from cuttings for me. Just choose a pot with a large opening, rather than a narrow one.
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Is rosette delizy sterile? I don't see any descendants.
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It can set hips but I haven't found seeds in those I've cut open. Nor have the Tea Book authors.
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I'm finding this one to be almost completely thornless. It does a have a few, generally around 1 cm along their bases, but they are very sparse indeed. Most of the bush, currently around 1.7 metres high and wide, seems to no thorns at all.
Has anyone else noticed this?
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Yes. The book Tea Roses. Old Roses For Warm Gardens p1174 says ‘Rosette Delizy’ prickles few, mostly on older branches.
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Ah. Been ages since I looked at that book, and couldn't remember the details. I have come to the conclusion that the less spikey a rose is, the more I like it. :)
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Might be worth tagging this one as "Thornless, or almost", since it seems to be less jaggy than some which already have that tag. IMO it's easier to work around than Cecile Brunner, for example.
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Definitely! I just walked out to double check with my plant, and yep, almost thornless. I should have changed it before. Thanks for keeping us on the ball Give me caffeine.
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Hardly keeping you on the ball. I haven't been active here for some time, and I only noticed all the relative thorniness of my monsters because I've finally got around to doing a big clean up on them.
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Very happy to see your name again.
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I wonder whether the pollen parent to 'Rosette Delizy' should be 'Comtesse de Bardi' (Nabonnand, 1899) and not 'Comtesse Bardi' (Soupert & Notting, 1895). It makes more sense that Nabonnand might use his own rose. Also the Rosenlexikon reference gives "Ctsse de Bardy" as the pollen parent.
Edited to add: I just realised the same confusion probably applies to 'Anne Leygues' too.
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Oh, how did we all miss that. It certainly makes sense HubertG. I wonder what parentage the Nabonnand Society show. I will change the parentage tomorrow if nobody has any objections.
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3 JAN 19 by
HubertG
Les Amis de Roses Nabonnand have "Général Gallieni x Comtesse de Bardy" as its parentage, but they also have a listing for "Comtesse de Bardi" spelt with the 'i'.
A quick internet search suggests the correct name of the countess at least is Comtesse de Bardi. There is a RosenZeitung entry for 1899 as "Comtesse de Bardi", which I'll add later on.
I would suggest the correct name for the rose is 'Comtesse de Bardi'.
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Parentage now changed from Comtesse Bardi (tea, Soupert & Notting, 1895) to Comtesse de Bardi (tea, Nabonnand, 1899)
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