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'Souvenir du Docteur Jamain' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 153-695
most recent 26 OCT HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 OCT by Orianne Courmes
Available from - Famous Roses
https://en.famousroses.eu/fr-fr/products/souvenir-du-docteur-jamain-climbing-rose
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Discussion id : 129-178
most recent 25 SEP 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 SEP 21 by Aerith
Available from - High Country Roses
https://www.highcountryroses.com/
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Discussion id : 120-472
most recent 14 MAR 20 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 8 MAR 20 by Lesky
There is a listing and accompanying photo with description and growing advice for Souvenir du Docteur Jamain on p. 252 of Martin, Claire G.,"100 Old Roses for the American Garden," (New York: Workman Publishing, 1999). I do not see this reference noted for this rose, just wanted to share the source.
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 8 MAR 20 by jedmar
We can add the reference if you have the text - this book is not in my library.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 9 MAR 20 by Lesky
Hi, what do you need to add it, exactly, besides the citation? Also, I can upload a photo of the cover of the book or of the entry if that would help.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 9 MAR 20 by jedmar
The book is already listed on Publications including a small pic of the cover. We would need the citation incl. page number.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 9 MAR 20 by Lesky
Here is the citation with page number:
Martin, Claire G.,"100 Old Roses for the American Garden," (New York: Workman Publishing, 1999); p. 252.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 10 MAR 20 by jedmar
Sorry, I mean the relevant text in the book
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 14 MAR 20 by Lesky
Text: (1999 publication photo below) "A much overlooked selection, this Docteur catches both the eye and nose with its unusual deep color and superb perfume when in bloom. 'Souvenir du Docteur Jamain' is equally good as a shrub or trained onto a support as a climber. The bendable canes lend themselves to training onto a pillar or tripod, and you get a more easily contained shrub along with the added benefit of increased bloom. Whoever the good doctor was, he is remembered by a fine rose.

"The thin canes of 'Souvenir du Docteur Jamain' will arch out to 8 feet or more, with a nearly equal spread, and when given support they can attain 12 feet. New canes are plum-colored with oval, pointed chartreuse green foliage edged with antique bronze. The smooth gray-green mature canes carry only the occasional small red-green prickle. Round, blood red buds are produced in small clusters and open to fully petaled, ruffled, velvety crimson-to-plum, cupped flowers with bright yellow stamens at their centers. There is an occasional white streak, known as quilling, which tags the velvety texture of the petals. The fragrance is strong and sweet of Cabbage Rose perfume. Rebloom is good in spring and fall, though only intermittent the rest of the season. The foliage is prone to problems such as mildew, so be on the alert if that's a concern in your area.

"The deep burgundy tones of the loosely petaled flowers will suffer without some protection from the hottest direct sun. Try planting the good Docteur where he will spill over a whitewashed brick wall. The contrast between the wall and the deep claret and crimson colors of this cultivar will cause your garden visitors to gasp in amazement.

HYBRIDIZER: Francois Lacharme, Lyons, France
SUITABILITY: all levels
AVAILABILITY: mail-order
STATURE & HABIT: warm climate, 8' X 8'; cool climate, 8' x 8'
FRAGRANCE: strong, sweet Old Rose
USES: border, hedge, climber, cutting
PARENTAGE: 'General Jacqueminot' X 'Charles Lefebvre'
DISEASES: mildew
HARDINESS: hot climate, good; cold climate, good
BLOOM: remontant"
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 14 MAR 20 by jedmar
Thank you, reference added!
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Discussion id : 117-774
most recent 25 JUL 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 JUL 19 by Jay-Jay
This rose seems to need/take ages to settle. Seven years after planting it is now developing more canes and laterals than before and blooming a lot and repeatedly. Seems to like our too dry and too hot summers, the second on a row and temps over 38°C.
But alas, due too those same weather conditions, it is (au contraire to normal) very sparse with its gorgeous scent.
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