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'Bougainville' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 129-532
most recent 1 NOV HIDE POSTS
Initial post 31 OCT by Darrell
Why, under 'Bougainville' in References, is Joyaux's commentary listed twice in a row? (Just curious about this curiosity.)
Reply #1 of 4 posted 1 NOV by Margaret Furness
The rose used to be on Bougainville's grave, but I asked Odile Masquelier to check when she mentioned it in an article, and it's no longer there. From the Journal of Heritage Roses in Australia summer 2011, 33.4, pp 26-30 (you can find it via Trove), reprinted in translation from Le Journal des Roses Anciennes en France, no. 16, Autumn 2010.
"Push hard, because it has rained",  kindly observed the keeper, whom I knew and who had handed me the key of St. Peter’s cemetery in Montmartre. In this green and quiet haven, whose entrance is closed to the public, a few gravestones are still looked after and, on one of them, the inscription reads: “To the Memory of Louis-Antoine, Count de Bougainville, 1729 – 1811”. On each corner of that grave I reverently planted a rose of the ‘Bougainville’ variety¹ created in 1823 by my grandmother, daughter-in-law of Scipion Cochet (the famous ‘Maman Cochet’)".
The person thus speaking of the Admiral is none other than P Charles Cochet, nephew of the founder of the ‘Journal des Roses’, Scipion Cochet.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 1 NOV by Darrell
I don't understand the reply. Are you suggesting that part of what you quoted by the nephew or all that you wrote should or will take the place of the duplicated comment? It doesn't seem to answer my question.

Or that HMF will leave the redundant duplicate entry by Joyaux?
Reply #3 of 4 posted 1 NOV by Margaret Furness
I'll leave that to the administrators. I was just adding a point of interest, which incidentally disagrees with the info we have about who bred it.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 1 NOV by jedmar
Sometimes an entry is duplicated when posting. Reasons unknown. Duplicate removed, thank you for the heads up!
Discussion id : 102-007
most recent 5 JUL 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 5 JUL 17 by CybeRose
Le Bon Jardinier pour l'annee 1828 (1827) p. 781

LA BOUGAINVILLE, des semis de M. Vibert. Fleurs moyennes, pleines, bien fermées, pétales ondulés, d'un rose tendre tirant sur le lilas.
Discussion id : 91-222
most recent 1 MAR 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 1 MAR 16 by Charles Quest-Ritson
Please can you make the following amendments to the data at the bottom of the page: [1] the rose was named after l'Amiral de Bougainville, not Bouganville [2] Cochet's name was Christophe, not Christophre.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 1 MAR 16 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Charles. Done.
Discussion id : 85-202
most recent 25 MAY 15 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 24 MAY 15 by scvirginia
This rose, the South Pacific island and the climbing shrub from South America were all named for Louis Antoine de Bougainville (1729-1811). 'Bouganville' is a misspelling, perhaps just a typo or a desire to distinguish the rose from the shrub or just a natural mistake based on how the name is pronounced in French, and how an English-speaker might hear it.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 25 MAY 15 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Virginia. 'Bouganville' is now a "hidden synonym".
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