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Joasine Hanet  rose photo courtesy of Petals and Buds Gardens
Discussion id : 45-844
most recent 17 JUN 10 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 14 JUN 10 by Margaret Furness
Where did your plant come from, and did it have this name then? Or is it the common foundling which many people think is Joasine Hanet? (I see no reason to disagree.)
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 14 JUN 10 by petals and buds
Hi, This rose was bought as 'Cemetary Pink' (Hilltop nursery I think, now closed), it is indeed a foundling, but common it is not. I'm not sure if all the foundlings are the same rose as this, it is too much of an important rose to go unnoticed and locked away in obscure collections. It is as far as I can tell as close to the rose 'Joasine Hanet' as I can tell, I thought it was this rose for years but held back from labelling it as so. It seems like a damask perpetual. It is highly fragrant, with petals that can all fall of on older blooms when touched. Very prickly, with an upright stiff habit. The shrub itself is not attractive but in full bloom it is a sight to behold. It has flowers almost continusously in quick succesion right throughout the warmer months. It is very hard to propagate, which is another factor which leads me to believe that it was not an old variety of rootstock that one rosarian has suggested.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 15 JUN 10 by Patricia Routley
Do you recall if Ian Huxley, Hilltop, mentioned which cemetery? I have his 2002 catalogue but can see no listing.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 15 JUN 10 by Margaret Furness
By "common" I meant it has been found in several locations in at least two states, thereby acquiring a number of study names! "Kew Cemetery Portland" and "Arie Bos's" rose in Victoria, "Iris Hylton's rose" in SA. Pat T says it used to be in the Blackwood hospital grounds. It is still on a roadside at Summertown and in a garden/road verge near Bridgewater. Definitely a survivor, and as you say, a wonderful rose. It will sucker on its own roots, and seems more vigorous growing that way than budded, in my garden.
Congratulations on reaching the ID independently.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 15 JUN 10 by petals and buds
Yes fascinating subject of bringing 'lost' roses back into cultivation. A very worthy subject like preserving our heritage vegetable seed and fruit varieties. I think most old roses are tougher and more vigourous growing on their own roots. Great photo, and find. I bet you keep your eyes peeled whenever out in country locations. Regards
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 16 JUN 10 by Margaret Furness
Yes, but some roses are easier than others - have a look at my Maman Cochet pictures - and you don't see anything at 110kph. I've been enjoying your photos.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 17 JUN 10 by petals and buds
Yes I've already seen and admired your lovely Maman rose photograph, that rose is huge. Quite outstanding, you're right some bushes will look good no matter how you photograph them.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 15 JUN 10 by petals and buds
Hi, I can't exactly recall where I bought it, probably in the mid nineties, and it survived a move. I have bought many roses from many different sources. I suspect it was the Kew Cemetary Portland. Regards
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