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most recent 28 SEP HIDE POSTS
Initial post 28 SEP by a_carl76
I think this variety has great breeding potential. It produces a lot of hips that turn a beautiful orange in the fall. I am collecting a few to see how fertile they are. Hopefully they will germinate in the first year instead of having to wait 2+ years like many hybrid spins make us do. Very healthy and hardy in Iowa so hopefully we can get some of these traits to carry forward.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 28 SEP by Robert Neil Rippetoe
It's an easy pollen parent and produces a percentage of repeat flowering seedlings when paired properly.

I haven't had much luck with seed the few times I've tried it.
most recent 30 JAN SHOW ALL
Initial post 26 JAN by steve fritz
Many of your roses say they were bred in 2014 but not planted until 2018.

Was this some sort of experiment you were trying?
Reply #1 of 3 posted 28 JAN by a_carl76
It was all purely by accident but it turned out to be a good experiment.

They were delayed in getting sowed because I didn't have time to actually plant them. I put them in my storage refrigerator without any moist medium. Some sprouted but 90% did not. When I finally had time in 2018 to work on them, I split the bags into 3 groups and would add moist vermiculite to a group every few months. This helped me control the amount of seedlings I was getting and thus eased their burden on my time. Unfortunately many are gone now as they got decimated by an extremely bad case of aphids. Of over 2000 seedlings, I have maybe 10 of them left.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 29 JAN by steve fritz
How many seedling do you plan for each year?
Reply #3 of 3 posted 30 JAN by a_carl76
I have gotten upwards of over 1500 before when I put them all in baggies with moist medium. Way too much for me to handle. So aiming for about 250-500 seedling at a time is usually the goal
most recent 12 AUG 19 SHOW ALL
Initial post 5 APR 10 by a_carl76
This is a very nice pale lavender hybrid tea to grow. Very nice form and a great scent too. I have grown it for several years without spraying with moderate success but it will eventually succumb to BS if the rest of your roses get it. I sprayed it intemittently for a few years with great success. I have to strongly disagree with the hardiness rating of this rose. Despite the plant being a hybrid tea, I have grown it very successfully in zone 5b. This past winter I did not put any winter protection on it because the plant was looking terrible and I was going to replace it. I now have to rethink this as it has sent up four basal shoots (clearly not understock). I have also grown it successfully in zone 4a, but it does require good winter protection there.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 7 SEP 16 by drossb1986
Stainless Steel is the #1 blackspot magnet in my garden...and that includes Purple Tiger which is known for blackspot. SS completely defoliated despite spraying.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 12 AUG 19 by Plazbo
Possibly related to soil ph. Caruth being in Cali likely has alkaline soil. I in Sydney Australia (a catchment area) have pretty acidic soil....basically everything of his gets blackspot here unless liming the soil or potting mix. Your bio says Huston which is apparently alkaline clay but you also mention raised beds so may or may not be the issue.
most recent 16 FEB 19 SHOW ALL
Initial post 4 FEB 19 by a_carl76
The parentage currently listed seems to be different from that listed on the patent.

Patent states "It is a seedling grown from seed produced on the hardy climbing Rosa wichuraiana hybrid known as 'Glendale,' this seed was produced by fertilization with pollen of a self seedling from the hardy climbing Rosa wichuraiana hybrid known as 'Golden Climber, Mrs. Arthur Curtiss James.'"

Currently listed as Glenn Dale X Stargold
Patent Suggests Glendale X seedling of Mrs. Arthur Curtiss James and quite possibly Glendale X (Mrs. Arthur Curtiss James x Mrs. Arthur Curtiss James)
Reply #1 of 2 posted 5 FEB 19 by Patricia Routley
I added more references yesterday. No time now for the next two days to look more closely at this one. I wonder if looking at the application dates for the patents will reveal anything.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 16 FEB 19 by Patricia Routley
I agree with you about the pollen parent of (Mrs. Arthur Curtiss James x Mrs. Arthur Curtiss James) and will change it from 'Stargold' to the above.

I am at a loss to understand why so many of the Brownell roses are quoting different parentages to those of the Patents. But as nobody has contributed other knowledge, I think it is best if we follow what patents say.
The Brownell roses with wobbly parentages are
Stargold 1936
Lily Pons 1939
Pink Princess 1939 -and because of this one, also:
Creeping Everbloom 1939
Lady Lou 1948
Tip Toes 1948
Midnite Sun 1955
Maria Stern 1968
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