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Can anyone tell me about the disease resistance of this rose? It will have to endure partial shade and I've been told by some nurserys that it would be fine. The second question is would this work for a pillar? Thanks for your help.
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You can look up "hybrid musks" in our GLOSSARY and find out more about this class of roses.
Smiles,
Lyn
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#2 of 6 posted
12 SEP 08 by
Carlene
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I have mine growing in mostly shade in a pot - absolutely no disease. Drought tolerant in a pot. Blooms more of course when it gets sufficient water. Tough little rose.
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#4 of 6 posted
13 SEP 08 by
 jedmar
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Ours has lost almost all foliage to blackspot!
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It will mildew a bit when conditions are at their worst.
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#5 of 6 posted
20 APR 18 by
Gdisaz10
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Blackspot in the summer in my hot , humid climate.
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#6 of 6 posted
20 APR 19 by
johnm99
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In Victoria BC (now zone 8b - cool summer, temperate winter) I find this to be astonishingly healthy. I have a large specimen that I planted over 20 years ago. Deer invaded our neighbourhood after that, and ate all the bottom 3 - 4 feet off it, but it continued to grow upward , curling around a telephone pole, forming a large ball maybe 8' wide from about 5 ' to 12 ' above the ground.
It gets almost no disease, and is nearly evergreen. Flowers from May to November.... scent has been described as strong, but I would say it is actually "moderately strong" - but very nice.
Of the 40 or so roses I had in our front garden, the deer killed most of them - leaving only Felicia, Cl. The Fairy and New Dawn - all because they could grow up and escape the deer. Felicia brings me a great deal of pleasure.
That being said, I have seen it encumbered with blackspot in other locations, but not devastatingly so - more annoying than harmful to the overall plant health.
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I planted 2 Fourth of July climbers, 1 per side, on an arbor. This will be their third season in the ground and they are only about 2 feet tall. I'm in zone 7a, and they get lots of sun in my back yard. Is this normal behavior for the third year? Do you think they are planning on climbing any time soon?
I'm seriously thinking of moving them elsewhere and trying another set of climbers...perhaps Elie Beauvillain. I know I'm not a patient person, but I'm thinking 3 years aught to see some growth.
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Your rose is probably own root and is slower to get started. Give it another year.
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This rose is often slow to "take off." Have patience. Mine, which is grafted took several years to come into its own also -- I thought I just had purchased runty plants, but then the next year they "did their thing" and are big climbers now. So leave them be.
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Rose Listing Omission
Blessed Child
This is an introduction from Rogue Valley Roses in Oregon.
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1 OCT 05 by
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Does anyone know whether this rose can be grown without support to be a very large shrub? I am looking for a rose that can act as a visual barrier between our neighbor's home and ours. They have a very bright security light that shines in our windows at night. I have always liked this rose and wanted to grow it but haven't had a place for it.
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3 OCT 05 by
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If you're in a mild enough area, where the plant will not freeze, nor where it's so cool the plant doesn't grow quickly enough, it CAN mound up into a fairly large shrub. BUT, it's going to be much better with support. How high is the security light? It sounds as if you'd be better off with a tall hedge, instead of a rose or other plant which will tend to be as wide and deep as it is tall.
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My Crepuscule is growing more as a shrub than a climber, although I do have the longest cane now trained to a fence rail. The canes are pretty upright and stiff on mine, so I can imagine it as a big shrub as it puts on more growth over the years. This is a rose I can sit down for a while and just stare at the flowers for a long time, the color blending and shadows down deep between the petals make it look like a fine porcelain craftsmen worked for months creating them. Just beautiful. Do try this rose. I put a fish under my roses as I plant them and fertilize with alfalfa and fish emultion twice in the spring and once going into fall. All books that even mention this rose say its a slow grower, but mine took right off and quadrupled in size the first season and then doubled again the following spring. Drought right now (August 2008, Richmond VA) has slowed it down as with all the other roses, but it is indeed blooming a bit during this bad spell.
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Bob,
I'm in Northern VA and am thinking of growing this on a wrought iron gazebo. Do you think the canes would be too stiff for this?
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I think you would be unhappy trying to bend this one to your will. I would try a nice limber wichuriana rambler like Alexandre Girault or Albertine and just pair it with a constrasting clematis that reblooms. Far easier. But you will love this rose if you were to try it for another niche in the garden.
Bob
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Thanks for taking the time to answer. I will have to find another spot for her because I think this is a beautiful rose. Like you, I have 150+ roses so space is very limited. I may go with Reve d'Or or one of your suggestions instead for the gazebo.
Cyndy
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