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Sweet Frances is one of the most beautiful roses in my yard. It gets little or no black spot, grows to about 6 feet, is a beautiful color, and grows well with Perle d'Or. I have many pictures of it, but did not save them with the names. I hope to enter a picture soon since it could be close to my favorite out of about 95 roses.
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Can you please tell me more? I bought it based on your review, now I need to decide where it should go in my garden. How tall and wide ? Will it tolerate some shade? Thanks!
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My garden has disappeared. I cannot get in touch with anyone to find out what happened.
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Where are my roses?
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#1 of 5 posted
13 FEB 19 by
 jedmar
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Photos are there. Are you missing a plant listing?
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The prompt says I have no roses. I have had roses listed here for years, and have paid my fee -- I pay it regularly.
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Sammy, I have no idea what happened to your list of roses. It is listed as being last updated on January 29, 2014. I can only hope that you kept your private records as well. Can I offer to help you reinstate your HelpMeFind listing? I can go through your comments and photos and add anything I see there. And then you can add anything that is missing.
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Issues like this are most always a function of a member having multiple member accounts or garden listings.
Could you have opened a new member account at some point or maybe started a second garden listing. It is not likely your list is lost.
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Is there a way that I can find them? When I last paid, I looked through them. I changed my email a few years ago, but I have seen the roses since then. How could they have just disappeared?
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"Rival de Paestum" This is a beautiful rose, but who names the roses?
Paestum was an old city, and in the languages I tried from Google, Rival is rival. Why would a beautiful white rose be named a rival to an old city?
I understand names like Souvenir de la Malmaison. I understand names that indicate an honor to a person or a Prince - princess, but why name a beautiful white rose a name like this?
(Now I need to look up Arethusa.)
I just did look up Arethusa, and the answer is on HMF. I am pleased we can edit.
This is a curious question, and in no way an indication that I have a desperate need for a response. I just think about these things from time to time.
Sammy
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20 JAN 13 by
jedmar
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The roses of Paestum were apparently famous in ancient Roman times. The poet Virgil (1st century BC) mentions reblooming roses of Paestum (biferi rosaria Paesti). The name was therefore given by Béluze to mean "rivals the roses of Paestum".
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How very interesting. Thank you so much.
I love the antique roses because of the link I feel to my family, and history in general. It is amazing where you mind can go when you think of the life of Virgil.
I really appreciate your response.
Sammy
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16 APR 14 by
CybeRose
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In this case, Beluze was comparing his 'Rival de Pestum' to Plantier's rather similar 'Reine de Pestum'.
Annales des Sciences Physiques et Naturelles, D'Agriculture et D'Industrie pp. 493-497 (1840)
Reine de Pestum (Plantier). Fleurs en bouquets de 4 à 6, grandes, blanches, à centre jaune; boutons allongés, à sépales dentés, se réfléchissant avant l'épanouissement des pétales; folioles lancéolées, ondulées; rameaux et pétioles pourprés. Trés-élégante; réussit très-bien greffée; faible franche de pied.
Rivale de Pestum (Beluz., n° 9, 1839). Écorce, petioles et pédicelles rougeâtres; folioles plus petites et moins ondulées que celles de la Reine de Pestum; boutons rosés, arrondis; pétales en coeur (tronqués dans R. de Pestum). Réussit beaucoup mieux de bouture que la Reine de Pestum.
Karl
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