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Christina i Taxinge, Sweden
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Initial post 15 SEP 15 by Elizabeth
It does not seem possible that this is a zone 6b. It is listed as very hardy and was bred at the Swedish Agricultural University. Is it really 6b?
Reply #1 of 6 posted 16 SEP 15 by Patricia Routley
Probably not. Ulrika Carlsson-Nilsson's other three roses are listed as 2b through to 8b ('Irma'), 3b and 4b. As they all used the same pollen parent of 'L83', I would imagine they should all be listed with the same zone. However, my weakness is zones - I just don't know 'em. Can someone confirm that they should all be listed ....3b and warmer?
Reply #2 of 6 posted 16 SEP 15 by Elizabeth
If I could get my hands on one, I would be happy to test it in nominal zone 5a... which seems to become 4 if we do not have much snow cover!
Reply #3 of 6 posted 16 SEP 15 by Elizabeth
They grow, according to the Gardens tab, in Rosenlunds Rosarium, a public gardens in Jönköping, Sweden. This appears to be in zone 6b, assuming that the European zones correspond to US zones. I am very surprised to find that Sweden tends to have warmer zones than does Maine, where I live. Of course, this does not tell use whether the rose will only grow in this zone. The Swedish Agricultural University seems to have major branches in Alnarp (close to Malmo which is 8a), Skara (7a?), Umeå (5b) and Uppsala (7a).
Reply #4 of 6 posted 19 SEP 15 by Christina i Taxinge, Sweden
This rose, 'Balder', is very hardy and can be grown in the very North parts of Sweden.
This means zone 6 = Swedish zones!
I don't know what that is in US zones, sorry
Reply #5 of 6 posted 19 SEP 15 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Elizabeth and Christina. Nilssen's four roses changed to 6b and warmer.
Reply #6 of 6 posted 1 NOV 17 by Jarmo Moskuvaara, Finland Usda Zone 4b.
According to a new rose testing project in Sweden ( all of Nilsson's roses are consired reliably hardy in swedish zone 5, encompassing localities which range from Usda Zone 4a - 7a. They also make bushes so it means that they are cane hardy in those zones. Balder is/was rated since before to swedish zone 6 according to Nilsson and is considered the hardiest of them, testing occurred during the 90's. I don't have info on the testing locality in swedish zone 6 from the 90's nor could I find any, therefore the Usda Zone for this particular swedish zone 6 growing locality cannot be confirmed.
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Initial post 18 JAN 15 by jedmar
Is your 'Fiona' from Kordes or from Meilland please?
Reply #1 of 1 posted 18 JAN 15 by Christina i Taxinge, Sweden
My Fiona is from Kordes, but it is dead and gone by now......
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Initial post 16 NOV 13 by Jukka K
Christina, I don't think the rose in this photo is Ruskela. It is some other spinosissima cultivar. The other photos look like the real Ruskela.
Reply #1 of 5 posted 16 NOV 13 by Christina i Taxinge, Sweden
Hello Jukka!
Thanks for your comment!
The rose was bought in Finland as 'Ruskela' many years ago.
That does not mean anything becaue so many roses have the wrong name tag when they are being sold!
Which of course is a pity!!
Do you have any suggestions to what rose it might be if it is not Ruskela....?
I am interested to hear your opinion on this!

Kind regards,
Reply #2 of 5 posted 16 NOV 13 by Jukka K

I'm not an expert on pimpinellifolias and many of them are difficult to tell apart, but maybe Papula? Ruskela has blush/pale pink flowers that are quite often quartered and have sweet old rose fragrance (not like normal scots rose fragrance). It must be a cross with a damask or similar, I think.
If we believe that my Ruskela is correctly labelled, of course. :)

In the link above Papula has clearly two-toned flowers, as they should be, but in the hmf images they are not so clearly two-toned. Difficult!
Reply #3 of 5 posted 16 NOV 13 by Christina i Taxinge, Sweden
Thanks for your answer!
'Papula' is a very beautiful rose and I would not mind at all to have it in my garden:-))
I think you are much mor eof an expert than I am, so please advise.......should I rename my "Ruskela" to 'Papula' here on HMF or should I delete the photos?
I really don't know what to do......

Reply #4 of 5 posted 16 NOV 13 by Jukka K
Well, I personally don't think there's need to delete the photos because we can only speculate that it is mislabeled. I think this communication tells to other readers that the identity is uncertain.
Reply #5 of 5 posted 16 NOV 13 by Christina i Taxinge, Sweden
Thank you!
I leave it as is........:-)
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Initial post 17 NOV 12 by Queen of Denmark
This looks like Tausendschön, not Queen Elizabeth.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 18 NOV 12 by Christina i Taxinge, Sweden
It is QE.
As we all know, flowers look different due to various reasons.
This photo is taken of flowers in cold, rainy weather, which is usual in Sweden, and shows how QE can look here.
There are so many QE photos on HMF showing buds and newly sprung rose flowers in warmer, dryer weather so I didn´t think it was necessary to contribute with such photo.
But please, rest assured this is QE.
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