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ParisRoseLady
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Available from - Edmund's Roses https://www.edmundsroses.com/product/E23594
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Is HT the best designation for this rose? In the one photo, it looks very floribunda-ish, with small, charming flowers in a cluster.
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Nastarana, the stated height is not very HT-ish, at 3-4', but who knows? Meilland is launching it as a HT, Star Roses has picked it up for the US distribution, and most likely that modest stature will increase in areas of the country with long growing seasons. I don't know about the size of the blooms, it isn't mentioned. I think they look HT-ish, but that's my opinion. The petal count is modest. I AM intrigued by the color. It could be a great rose, or just a novelty that won't stand the test of time. It's up to the rose growing public to determine whether it will last or not. The ARS Roses in Review program will be giving reports on this rose (as well as all the major releases) as we move forward.
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Buds and peduncles remind me of Sweet Spirit, and some other DKO/KO descendants like Champion Red. Makes me consider if this is 2nd gen away from DKO/KO type. Foliage is super glossy, like many Meilland roses. Not much scent, according to the bio, too, which is disappointing. Actually the reason I didn't get it. I guess I expect scent with some color types.
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Michael, you may be right about the DKO/KO lineage, I see that in the flower form as well (especially DKO). Plus that lineage seems to be rather ubiquitous in recent years, since the success (commercial, at least) of DKO/KO. Re: lack of scent, it seems like pretty much all of the commercial Bloom Machine style releases have little to no scent. Plus if the description states light or mild scent, you can pretty much count on it being absent entirely!
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Available from - Bloomin' Easy Plants https://bloomineasyplants.com/
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21 AUG by
jedmar
Bloomin' Easy Plants seems to be mainly a wholesale marketing line for selling via retailers and garden centres. Possibly it is a brand of Van Belle Nursery, Abbotsford, British Columbia.
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Yes, they do wholesale to garden centers, there was an extensive Bloomin' Easy line this season (summer 2023) at my local Walmart garden center in Albuquerque NM. They also are an online retail nursery, I ordered a rose from them this season (Gumball Goody) and it was shipped quickly and had a great root system. That said, they are currently offering only 3 roses (Gumball Goody, Peach Lemonade, and Cinnamon Hearts) on the website. I purchased a Peach Lemonade 1 gallon size locally.
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I ordered all 3. It is a real gamble with these types. 'Campfire' was wonderful. I got it the first year it was out. 'Never Alone', on the other hand, was a disaster. Very down prone, some bs, and the blooms don't drop/green up really badly. 'Never Alone' did have an ideal plant shape, but that is where its merits end imo. 'Campfire' is slightly bigger than one could ask for, but its an amazing do-er. But, yeah, its a real gamble not being able to see these not-so-cheap roses in person first.
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Michael, do you mean you ordered Peach Lemonade, Gumball Goody and Cinnamon Hearts from Bloomin' Easy? If so, I can vouch for PL and GG, they have settled in quickly as container roses and bloomed a lot in their first season with excellent overall health and disease free foliage. (That said, this is an arid climate here in New Mexico, so BS isn't a problem). I'm expecting them to excel next season, and will post new pics/comments. Regarding Campfire, that one is on my radar, but I haven't seen it locally and it's not widely available online.
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Sorry, missed your post. Yes, I bought those 3. They have not arrived yet and its dormant season. We will see what happens in 2024, it seems.
I love Campfire. Little to no prickles and really wants to bloom. Dimensions similar to Bonica. May get slight powdery until its roots get anchored in, probably because it stresses itself from wanting to bloom non-stop. Once mature, I don't even water it in August lol, and it remains just fine.
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Michael, I just received the Jung Seed print catalog (LOL, one of the remaining nurseries that does a large full color catalog) and Campfire is available for 2024 as own root. So, I'm going to add it this season. It's the only vendor I could find that carries it. So we'll see how it does in a high desert climate. New Mexico is a long way from Canada where this rose was bred!!
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Campfire is good here in the low desert of CA, so it should love NM.
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I love the fragrance of this rose and it bloom all summer long ... But I have a little bit of black spot on it , which is desapointing me on that side ....I though it was VERY black spot resistant ....
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Fiji is, by the same breeder and looks similar, but this one is bred from 2 1980s HTs and 1 Austin English rose. None of which are particularly resistant to BS. Unfortunately, Fiji does not have the fragrance desired.
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Interesting informations , thanks !
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Michael, I grew an own root Fiji for a couple of years, it was a good bloomer, but it tended to straggle in the extended brutal NM heat, so I gave it away. Own root Dee Lish never did well for me for some reason, it had a decent spring flush but then put out a lot of tall growth with only sporadic flowers, and those got trashed in the heat. She was growing in a whisky barrel so had a pretty good amount of root ball/soil space, and the majority of my roses excel in that same barrel, but she appeared to not like it. Maybe NOT a good container plant? Some roses sulk in a container and only do well in the ground.
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Fiji hated the heat here in the low desert of CA as well.
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Available from - High Country Roses www.highcountryroses.com
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