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most recent 25 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 25 DEC by SoCal Coastal Rosarian
I was first exposed to EML in late October, 2018, at the ARS Convention in San Diego, CA. I was deeply moved by the beauty and novelty of the spray exhibited by Robert and Kristine Russell of San Diego. I have grown, observed, and exhibited the rose for a full year. This rose has equaled or exceeded my expectations. This is a breakthrough rose in the truest sense. As far as I have been able to see, there is no Hulthemia hybrid coming even close to EML. I suspect that EML will be difficult to match for some time. I am doing all I can to call attention to this extraordinary rose. I am a bit baffled that EML has not created more of a buzz among rose folks at this time. Sooner or later the word will get around.
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Initial post 3 JAN 11 by SoCal Coastal Rosarian
David Austin rose much loved by Southern California rosarians. This rose has almost all the qualites desired in this group of roses. These qualities include form, fragrance, outstanding color, a very attractive well behaved plant, stems which hold the bloom well, remarkable remontancy, and resistance to mildew. It could use bit more vigor, then again, one cannot have everything. As such its important to get a budded plant. Makes a lovely tree rose. Solid exhibition credentials.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 23 FEB by jmile
I agree with you in your comments about Prospero. I live in zone 9B in the California Bay Area. This rose is one of the best in my garden. It's blooms are consistent winners at the rose shows. It is not a large plant, but it is constantly in bloom. The blooms are long lasting and hold their color well. It is a trooper in the heat of summer even in drought conditions.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 25 FEB by SoCal Coastal Rosarian
It's nice to have a reply to comments made over 8 years ago. Your reply is a reminder that I should get started on making a new tree rose of Propero!
most recent 24 FEB SHOW ALL
Initial post 27 AUG 13 by SoCal Coastal Rosarian
Simasalabim is one of the most beautiful and attention grabbing roses that there is. The rose is highly variable as evidenced by the photos posted on HMF. The plant has the unwelcomed habit of reverting back to its Frisco origin as a pure yellow rose. I grow 4 of the numerous manifestations of Frisco. It seems that Simsalabim is the most mildew prone. In our clime it needs constant protection against powdery but it is well worth the effort. It is not a rose recommended for those adverse to spraying, although a bush covered with powdery will occasionally produce those eye popping blooms. The rose poses a conundrum for exhibitors as at least one authoritive source classifies the rose as a hybrid tea which it is not. The rose is a classic miniflora as we know the class. The ARS should declare that all roses which are primary, secondary and tertiary sports of Frisco be classified as minifloras for exhibition purposes. This group of roses is too important and interesting to be denied a rightful place in our rose shows. Nuff said!
Reply #1 of 1 posted 24 FEB by jmile
Simsalabim and Abracadabra and Hocus Pocus etc. are fairly free of black spot in my spray free garden. They have some black spot in the transition period between Spring and Summer but they lose these leaves and spend the rest of the year fungus free. We are blessed with low humidity most of the year except in the winter when it is too cool for fungus.
most recent 15 FEB HIDE POSTS
Initial post 15 FEB by SoCal Coastal Rosarian
It has been the dream of hybridizers to incorporate the magical red eye of Hulthemia persica, native to Iran, Afghanistan, and Turkestan, into the modern rose. I believe that with the introduction of Eyeconic Mango Lemonade, hybridized by James Sproul and classified as a floribunda, the goal has been largely achieved. EML has virtually all of the attributes of the modern rose with the addition of the magical red eye. The blooms of EML are disposed singly and in clusters. The individual blooms are quite large, up to 3.5 inches in diameter. Bud form is superb. The color, a non fading symphony of rainbow hues surrounding the vermillion eye, is outstanding. The blooms possess remarkable substance, a feature lacking in many of the Hulthemia persica hybrids. Stamen quality is quite good, a feature of particular importance to exhibitors. The blooms open slowly and last a long time. To top it all there is a mild fruity fragrance. The plant is attractive, disciplined, and grows well. Resistance to powdery mildew and rust appears to be good if not excellent. I did notice a touch of anthracnose as we are experiencing a wet winter in California. Due to it's absence here I cannot comment on black spot. There is reason to believe that EML is a breakthrough rose, something we rarely experience and is a source of great excitement and joy. In communicating with Dr. Sproul he has indicated that there are some "nice" red eyed roses in his pipeline. I can realistically surmise that the future may bring us red eyed hybrid teas, grandifloras, climbers, and perhaps miniatures and minifloras as good as EML!
Reply #1 of 3 posted 15 FEB by Michael Garhart
I consider the line minifloras, because they encompass all of the traits. They're simply wide and short instead of narrow, but they have all of the genetic and phenotypic traits of a miniflora. Simply not an exhibition style one or marketed as one. Not a huge difference between the plant style of my 'Power Point' and the original 'Eyeconic' (Lemonade) we still have at the farm house.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 15 FEB by SoCal Coastal Rosarian
Your point is well taken. As you know there are 7 roses in the Eyeconic series. Other than Eyeconic Mango Lemonade I am familiar only with Eyeconic Lemonade. The plant as I recall was rather small and the blooms averaged about 2 inches in diameter. In contrast I expect my plant of Eyeconic Mango Lemonade to reach 3.5 to 4 feet in height and just as wide. The blooms of EML measure up to 3.5 inches in diameter, too large for a miniflora. It thus appears that EML is classified correctly as a floribunda.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 15 FEB by Michael Garhart
huh, interesting!
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