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After more than 7 years growing them side-by-side, "Ferndale Red China"; and "Korbel Canyon Red China" are the same variety, in my opinion, or so alike that that there is virtually no difference between them. Both have a light cherry scent, from time to time. Both grow very tall here, at least 8' with support.
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Glorious!
I always found this cultivar highly under rated.
Where did you acquire it?
Thanks, Robert
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It is glorious, and nearly always in bloom -- so many flushes over the season. Great as a cut flower, too. This plant came as a band from Vintage Gardens in 2010.
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It looks like you got a really nice clone.
I used to grow the climbing version. I loved it but the repeat was much slower than the bush version.
Beautiful.
Thank you
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Deborah, following a hunch here, could you serve us up a plate of petals from an average bloom of “San Leandro Dark Red HT” - (much as I have done with the Australian foundling “Ebenezer Cemetery Miniature China”). I would like to confirm the petal shape and number of petals for “San Leandro Dark Red HT”.
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Patricia, the rose isn't in bloom at this time, but should start a fall flush sometime soon. When it blooms again, I can certainly post a plate of petals for you.
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I've just posted some photos of blooms and dissections in "fall mode", Patricia. They are generally a little smaller, maybe a few less petals, and not as intensely black as the blooms in cooler spring weather, but typical for this time of year.
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Thanks Deborah. A couple of weeks ago I passed one of my tiny bushes of ‘Crimson Glory’ and it seemed to have “sage green” foliage. That and the intense fragrance seemed a possibility. So then I read the patent for ‘Crimson Glory’ and I wanted to see how big the white nub was in the “San Leandro Dark Red HT”. My bushes are not yet blooming but the Patent indicates a bigger white nub in ‘Crimson Glory’. I would guess that your foundling is not C.G. Yes, yes - I know you could have told me that. Anyway, I’ll keep my eye out for other possibilities.
Patricia
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Good to know, Patricia. I don't know 'Crimson Glory' "personally" and was interested to see that some of its blooms can at times resemble those on this rose, looking at photos on HMF. In any case, it was good to get some dissected flower photos up for future reference!
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I stumbled upon this rose during one of my many "obsessive late-night searches", and something about it seemed familiar. Then I thought of 'September Morn' -- except that rose is much paler. But I then remembered that 'September Morn' is a sport of something else, and looked that rose up.
So, to get to the point, has anyone compared this rose to 'Mme Pierre Euler'? There aren't many pics of that rose, so for other details, I suppose looking at pics of 'September Morn' could suffice for comparison.
:-)
~Christopher
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One argument against this being 'Mme Pierre Euler' would be the strong scent it's described as having (also mentioned for sport 'September Morn'). "Zalud" has close to none in warmer weather and only a faint bit of some in the coolest weather (it surprised me that what scent there is was more detectable in January than in April). But, maybe that's just my nose. I'm wondering if anyone else can comment on the scent. Otherwise, leaves, flowers, etc. -- maybe. Unfortunately, it looks like SJHRG no longer has either MPE or SM (from their current list) so I could go compare. I did donate two plants of "Zalud" to them last month.
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The Friends of Vintage Roses Collection are listing ‘Mme. Pierre Euler’. Could you ask one or two of those volunteers to do some sniffing?
I’ve added your height of 4 feet to the main page, as well as the two possible identifications.
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I dont think it is MPE. I have MPE in my garden (ex Guillot): MPE has an etreme strong scent, the color is more uniform and the thorns are more and smaller...
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