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Deborah Petersen
most recent 19 MAY HIDE POSTS
Initial post 19 MAY by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I love your bush, so gorgeous !! Is your Gruss an Coberg OWN-ROOT or Grafted-on-Dr.Huey? What's the best soil for it (clay, loamy, or sandy)? Does it need rain water to bloom well? Also can it take partial shade or full-sun is needed? How do you like the scent? I lost $$$ on roses dying through my zone 5a winter, so I always check for the vigor of own-root, before buying. THANK YOU. G. an C. is hardy for zone 5b.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 19 MAY by Deborah Petersen
This plant is own-root. The soil here is gravelly clay-loam that tests neutral but some areas of the backyard show alkaline salt-blooms in low-rain years. I think this is a variety that is likely to do best in full sun (what it gets here) and it is irrigated weekly (slow, deep watering) during the summer dry months. The scent is very good, like narcissus and one of the reasons I bought it. It is susceptible to whatever our variety of black spot is, but conditions that allow that only occur for a few weeks in early spring in some years, so not a deal-breaker here. Otherwise, extremely healthy and, yes, strong on its own roots.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 19 MAY by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you for your reply. Your clay-loam is the best, I admire your garden-pictures, love those big rose bushes !! I'm making a "wafting fragrant garden" bed, and I'm waiting for Burlington nursery on the availability of OWN-ROOT Gruss an Coberg.
most recent 19 APR HIDE POSTS
Initial post 19 APR by Deborah Petersen
I just paid my premium membership ($24.00) and still can't access lineage and other features. How long does it take for those to be re-activated?
most recent 12 MAR HIDE POSTS
Initial post 12 MAR by Deborah Petersen
This bloom (this time of the year, at least) not quite like 'Royal Sunset' either -- well!
most recent 16 AUG 16 SHOW ALL
Initial post 17 APR 16 by Michael Garhart
The photos are really pretty. Definitely descends from Pernets, but the foliage is too nice to be purely Pernet type. The foliage is really pretty in the photos.
Reply #1 of 11 posted 17 APR 16 by Deborah Petersen
The blooms are somewhat longer-lasting than your typical "here today, gone today" Pernetiana, too. Last three days each, at least.
Reply #2 of 11 posted 17 APR 16 by Patricia Routley
Vintage also had 'Mevrouw G. A. van Rossem' and 'Heinrich Wendland', so it is obviously not either of those.
Reply #3 of 11 posted 18 APR 16 by Michael Garhart
I have not seen it in person, so it is hard to judge, but some of the traits resemble wichurana traits, sometimes seen in Brownell's roses, and I see in my own hybrids. The foliage density, foliage shine, prickle type. But this is a standard bush type?
Reply #4 of 11 posted 18 APR 16 by Deborah Petersen
Yes -- it grows tall over the course of the summer, vigorously extending its canes, but, still, like a typical bush.
Reply #5 of 11 posted 18 APR 16 by Michael Garhart
I wish I could help further. The foliage is a lot like Orange Ruffels and Lafter, which have a similar plant type, too. I looked at all sorts of Brownell Roses, as well as roses from Golden Glow. I don't know what this rose actually is. In some photos, Orange Ruffels *almost* looks the same, but I think that is coincidental.
Reply #6 of 11 posted 18 APR 16 by Deborah Petersen
There is variability in the color of the bloom. So far, the posted photos of the blooms are mostly in the apricot, orange or straw phase, but it does become a clear yellow sometimes. I've just put up a little photo of it in a bud vase showing the yellow phase. It is a mystery -- the virus likely indicating it was once a commercial variety, but no obvious candidates.
Reply #7 of 11 posted 18 APR 16 by Michael Garhart
Wow, yeah. The color range is wide. The petal shape is uncommon for Pernet types too.
Reply #8 of 11 posted 5 AUG 16 by VictoriaRosa
Just FYI-- I have both Orange Ruffels and Lundy's Lane Yellow and they are very different roses.
Reply #9 of 11 posted 13 AUG 16 by Michael Garhart
Thanks for the update on this mystery! Do you have other Brownell roses or roses that look like this mystery rose?
Reply #10 of 11 posted 13 AUG 16 by Patricia Routley
The pedicel prickles, the veining on the petals, and the deep green leaves are all directing my thoughts to something like 'Mevrouw G. A. Van Rossem' or a relation of that rose. I am in the middle of adding references for Mevrouw and note that there are a couple of other similar roses mentioned that you might like to investigate.
Reply #11 of 11 posted 16 AUG 16 by VictoriaRosa
No, I don't Right now, my Lundy isn't doing so well--I don't think it likes our Oregon climate as well as California, plus, I'm afraid I've let some other plants encroach on it. Which is all to say I don't have a lot to look at right now. It has never grown very well for me; I'll have to decide whether to keep it. Orange Ruffels, on the other hand, I've had for many years now, and while it stays small it is quite healthy and a reliable bloomer.
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