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most recent 4 days ago HIDE POSTS
Initial post 4 days ago by raingreen
You've captured the contrast between the stamens and dark petals Jay Jay. Nate
Reply #1 of 1 posted 4 days ago by Jay-Jay
In real, the petals are even a bit darker. But thanks Nate!
most recent 6 days ago SHOW ALL
Initial post 31 OCT by Murphy's Garden
Visiting here to see my roses of yesterday. I do not remember most of their names now, but their beauty and fragrance is forever graven in my memory. Tempting to consider starting a rose garden, this time small and species carefully chosen for my climate.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 6 days ago by raingreen

I am putting in a waterless (no water once-established) garden east of Los Angeles, which includes roses. This is the first summer to subject the plants to 'waterless' conditions. Our last rain was in May. Plants were selected for heat tolerance, desiccation tolerance, and the ability to grow in winter.

The roses selected are 'Crown Princess Margareta', 'Old Blush', 'Mrs. B. R. Cant', 'Le Vesuve', 'Graham Thomas', and 'Evelyn'. They are proving resistant to the common local problem of sunscald. 'Crown Princess Margareta' has maintained better foliage than the other roses, who developed brown leaf edges after experiencing a couple of months of drought. Also, 'Mrs. B. R. Cant' and 'Le Vesuve' defoliated in July. MBRC has an attractive branch structure, and actually looks OK IMO. However, most people would prefer roses that remained evergreen under the summer drought.

Although we are a couple of months out from the fall rains, so far CPM appears to be the best choice for a waterless garden in Los Angeles. This is due to it's healthy evergreen foliage under drought. Of course your mileage may vary. David Austin's nursery isn't disclosing the complete parentage, but it looks like the plant is a hybrid with a cluster flowered noisette.

Hoping you can have a rose garden that truly thrives,

Reply #2 of 2 posted 6 days ago by jedmar
Very interesting! Growing plants in drought conditions will be an important theme
most recent 24 MAY SHOW ALL
Initial post 15 OCT by Plazbo
First bloom today. No obvious sign of red/pink behind it like there is with Ebb Tide, much more even and far cooler hued tone. It's not blue (obviously) but it's a much cleaner colour.

-edit 3 Nov 2018-
Has been fairly easy to get pollen from. It's bloom shape is a bit irregular/untidy but so far fairly decent plant. Has quite a number of BS and powdery mildew plants nearby, isn't showing either issue.
Reply #1 of 4 posted 23 MAY by raingreen
Have you found RIB to resist heat scald? As you had observed for the Carruth rose Scentimental, I've seen Ebb Tide showing leaf burn after 104 F/40 C temps. In the same garden, the adjacent rose Julia Child, also bred by Carruth, was a healthy green color and much more heat tolerant.

Thanks, Nate
Reply #2 of 4 posted 23 MAY by Plazbo
I don't recall...probably means it wasn't particularly bad. That or it wasn't flowering so didn't catch my eye, it hasn't been too productive with flowering, still building itself up.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 23 MAY by Margaret Furness
RIB varies a lot from climate zone to climate zone. It does well in my slightly acid loam over clay, climate zone 9b, with a peak to 45C last summer. Didn't worry it. However I've decided that the colour doesn't fit in well with my oldies, so it's going to go.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 24 MAY by raingreen
k thanks
most recent 6 NOV HIDE POSTS
Initial post 6 NOV by raingreen

In doing an advanced search for member ratings of heat tolerance, the reported heat tolerance is different from the rating under the entry for the individual rose. For example, in the search list, Abraham Darby's heat resistance is listed as 'excellent' but on it's individual member rating page it is listed as 'good +'.

Thanks, Nate
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