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25 OCT 16 by
Alma
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This Gallica seems to be very similar to 'Rose de la Maître École'. Both are growing in my garden and last Summer I could find no difference.
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Ha, I was just out studying my roses and noticed a resemblance, too. My Comtesse as a plant is still just getting going, though (and has almost finished blooming for the year), so it will be a while before I can draw conclusions, if ever. My 'Comtesse de Lacepede' comes from Petrovic.
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26 JAN 20 by
Alma
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Agatha Incarnata is flesh pink. Bloom shape and leaves also differ from this photo.
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My 'Onex' purchased in 2012 from Petrovic, turns out to be 'Nuits de Young', a dark Moss. I don't know how widespread this error is. Does anyone have an 'Onex' that's distinct from NdY, or have they seen a plant that is?
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16 JUL 18 by
Alma
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This error seems to be widespread. My 'Onex' -purchased at Rosenbaumschule Fechner' - was also 'Nuits de Young'. Maybe the origin was identical to that of your rose. Now I have got another 'Onex' and it is a Gallica but with a great similarity to 'Cora'.
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Thanks for the reply. As far as the garden is concerned, I'm overwhelmed, but perhaps come fall may be able to think about roses and not just garden cleanup. I appreciate this information.
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how can such a tiny young plant produce such big gorgeous blooms?I'm new to gallicas and the more I see of them,the harder I fall in love!I'm just a tad worried that I won't prune them nicely,but I hope to improve with time.duchesse d'orient will definitely be on my next rose order.
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23 JUN 18 by
Alma
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Did you notice, that Duchesse d'Orient is no Gallica? It is sold as a Gallica but probably a Portland Rose.
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23 JUN 18 by
perpetua
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No,I hadn't noticed.I'm very new to Gallicas(and to roses in general,only 5 yrs experience),but I love my Portlands;I grow Jacques Cartier,Yolande D'Aragon,Sidonie,Indigo and Comte de Chambord and I adore them all.I'm planning to buy Pergolese and Glendora,Duchesse de Rohan,maybe also Arthur de Sansal this fall.I'm afraid I couldn't for the life of me tell which rose family a plant belongs to.My knowledge and my tastes remain quite rudimentary.With a few exceptions,I'm fairly disappointed with my modern roses;I plan to replace them with old ones.Climbers,again with a few notable exceptions,have been driving me crazy,as I still struggle to give them an appropriate shape(and fail miserably most of the times).Moss roses intrigue me,even though I grow only Salet,which I absolutely adore.Will definitely be buying some Mosses too this fall(william lobb,soupert et notting,henri martin,mme louis leveque)
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'Duchesse d'Orient' has little hooked prickles as most portlands do and leaves growing close to the flowers very much like your 'Jaques Cartier' does. If you like gallicas I can give you suckers of 'Rosa Mundi', Officinalis', 'Charles de Mills' and 'Camieux' if you would like. There is a wonderful book called ROSA GALLICA by Suzanne Verrier it can be bought cheaply second hand on Amazon, it will make you want to grow them even more...
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23 JUN 18 by
perpetua
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Yes,Jacques does have leaves very close to the flowers!Thank you so much for the offer,but I think I'll start with grafted ones and then have fun making my own cuttings.So far I have managed to root 3 Gruss an Coburg puny cuttings,one Grace and in late April,an Ingrid Bergman red new sprout that I had accidentally broken off.I believe Ingrid has taken root because I've noticed red leaves under the bottle.I'm a bit scared to lift the bottle to know for sure.Thank you so much for the book recommendation,I can use any help I can get with gallicas.
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Why is the name shown in quotes? Was this a found rose? I agree it looks like a Portland, as witness the drooping, soft leaves.
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"Double quotes" is the international signal for a found rose. 'Single quotes', or none, denotes a bred and named rose.
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