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Johno
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Greetings: I am the Secretary for the Greater Palm Beach Rose Society. The Society's Board has requested that I (the Secretary) update our Society page here on HelpMeFind, but it seems I cannot do so. Can you please either give me access rights for the Greater Palm Beach Rose Society listing or delete this Society listing so that I can create a 'New' Society page that we can maintain and update?
The Society page: Greater Palm Beach Rose Society (Palm Beach, Florida)
Thank you for your assistance in this matter. The favor of a reply is requested.
Kim Wendt Society Secretary Administrative Board The Greater Palm Beach Rose Society Palm Beach, Florida
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Ok, you are all set - thank you for your participation !
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Can you please make it so this Society Listing can accept PMs? The PMs should come to me here on HMF or if an email is needed, I added the email to the Society page. Still says that we've 'elected' to not accept messages at the moment. Can't seem to find where that setting would be...
Again, thank you for your help!
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#3 of 7 posted
21 DEC by
Johno
Go to your account and Edit Your Preferences. Turn your Post Notifications on and also Accept Preferences From All Members (or just your HMF friends).
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Hi back and thank you. My personal account already is set to Accept PMs from all HMF members. It's the Society Page I now admin, that will not? accept PMs? Maybe because it's a free page? Or because I now admin this page, but was not the original creator - so maybe that person(s) had set it to OFF? Not sure.
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#5 of 7 posted
21 DEC by
Johno
I assume you may need to log onto your GPBRS account rather than your personal one. I can see now that not all societies are set up the same on HMF. GPBRS does not have a 'Listing Admin' tab..
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Currently, private messages only work for member to member communications.
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#7 of 7 posted
22 DEC by
Johno
Agree, but some societies (eg Chilean Rose Association, Knysna Rose Society) have a 'Listing Admin' tab which allows you to send a private message to the administrator for the site. Is there a reason why not all sites are the same?
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Rose Listing Omission
Rustica III
Source:https://www.meillandrichardier.com/rosier-buisson-rustica-r-3-meilaocil.html
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#1 of 3 posted
20 DEC by
Johno
Also, Rustica number 2 appears to be missing as only MEIvilanic (1979) is shown on HMF.
"Our history: Since 1979, Meilland has been honoring the gardening magazine Rustica with a yellow rose. This new variety, christened in Bagatelle in June 2023, is the third of the name! Rustica magazine has been offering good advice to all gardeners since 1928."
Ref: www.meillandrichardier.com/rosier-buisson-rustica-r-3-meilaocil.html#description
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#3 of 3 posted
20 DEC by
jedmar
The third of that name, possibly counting the 1929 'Rustica' of Barbier as No. 1. It is not evident that Meilland had another Rustica after 1979. Maybe Matthias will enlighten us.
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#2 of 3 posted
20 DEC by
jedmar
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Hi guys,
I've noticed that in the past week you seem to be getting pages and pages of this, coming in batches...
* Posted by unregistered site guest: Pending HMF administrative review. *
I assume these are all spambots. Have you considered disabling posting for guests? It's commonly abused by spammers, and many sites don't allow it for that reason. Offhand I don't recall much legitimate content coming from guests, and if anyone really does want to post legitimate content it's quick and simple to register.
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#1 of 2 posted
17 DEC by
Johno
In this latest episode there are over 100 'spam' messages. I will second your motion to stop so called guests from posting comment. Allow visitors to view site but prevent any form of posting. People can register but still choose an anonymous member name if they wish to post comment or upload photographs. Is the site protected from a major hack?
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I assume HMF's security is pretty good, since it seems to have done well so far.
Bots spamming via guest posting is not a security risk. It just results in a lot of crap the admins have to clean up. :)
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I have been investigating a possible identity for this beautiful found rose, and would be interested to hear from others what you think. Curtis' Beauties of the Rose, reprinted by Sweetbriar Press with a listing of American nurseries who offered the roses Curtis illustrated in the mid-to-late 1800s, illustrates a number of roses of this type—very double, globular-formed blooms of rich shades of crimson and cherry red, often with pale reverses. One of these has not been rediscovered, though it was offered by the California Nursery Co. during the height of the Gold Rush when many roses were planted in the foothills towns. The rose I'm referring to is 'Robin Hood' from Jean Laffay, prior to 1848. This is just the beginning of a search for more information, and the combing of resources. For those who love found roses, this is what it's all about!
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Does it bloom in clusters? How high and wide? HelpMeFind needs more photos of characteristics. Could “Copperopolis Bar” be a bourbon? I note that “Copperopolis Bar” is said to be similar to “Tylor Carll” but a different colour. However there is a comment in “Tylor Carll” from Fred Boutin who says “I have grown and observed the "Tylor Carll" rose for 30 years and have noticed all the variations and mixes in colors from light red to dark red to black with an array of bluish violets and purples”.
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Thanks Patricia, and thanks to everyone for your patience. The last number of comments I've made on roses in HMF have been slow to receive reactions. I wasn't prepared to hear back so soon! Patricia, I have not yet had time to do photos of the plant parts, and will do so in the Spring and post them here. Copperopolis does bloom with several buds is a cluster, each opening in succession so that it's display is prolonged. The color varies considerably in our climate, so I would not be surprised by Fred Boutin comparing two roses that are both perhaps so variable in coloring. In our garden it ranges from crimson, the sort of color we see in modern roses like Oklahoma, to a rich cool red, but pink in comparison to such dark reds. I have continued to study other possibilities including Baronne Hallez, another of the very double globular reds introduced into California in the mid 19th century. Hallez does not exhibit a pale reverse to the petals in Curtis' illustration. Copperopolis has been a willing grower, but not a large plant for me after three years of growing. Curtis says Hallez is 'very robust.' I don't put a lot of stock in size descriptions, but rather assume that until a foundling can be budded onto a suitable rootstock, we don't really know if it is vigorous or not. I'll be back with photos of Copperopolis' parts in the Spring. -Gregg
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#2 of 9 posted
8 OCT by
Lee H.
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#3 of 9 posted
8 OCT by
Lee H.
'Copperopolis Bar' may be the clunkiest name ever given to a rose. Mark Twain would have called it 'The Celebrated Red Rose of Calaveras County' ;-)
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#4 of 9 posted
9 OCT by
Johno
The photo immediately reminded me of a HP that use to grow in the garden: Victor Hugo (Schwartz, 1884). Bloom colour in the description doesn't worry me (when does dark pink become red?), but petal count for Victor Hugo may not be enough to match. I note Victor Hugo is listed in The Friends of Vintage Roses Collection so it may be worth comparing. Unfortunately, it will be difficult to show the rose is Robin Hood based on an image from a C19 text
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Hi Johno! We grew Victor Hugo for a number of years, but ultimately lost it. It was literally scooped out of the ground and washed to sea during a fierce winter storm that tore an eight by eight foot gorge that was carved on one edge of the garden. I'm still trying to locate cuttings of it. Copperopolis is somewhat smaller in bloom than VH, as I recall it. But it is the form that is so distinctive. It has what you might call the 'Ranunculus' form, very globular, not just in the bud stage but through the life of the bloom. It is the characteristic that I find most people are struck by. with petal edges that don't just curve downward but roll neatly under the petal. I don't expect to be able to make a certain identification of this found beauty, but I cannot resist comparing it to reasonably possibilities (like having documented cataloguing that shows it was imported into the area where it was found a hundred or more years later.) And in following that trail, I find this discussion of that 'group' of HPs that were in demand and well loved at the time. To suggest that Copperolis may be among that group, is to provide a touchstone plant that survives, which provides a living example of the group. -Gregg
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#5 of 9 posted
11 DEC by
ThomasR
Francia Thauvin's website shows pictures of some rare Hybrid Perpetuals, often there is just one picture, but I was wondering if this could help?
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Thank you, Thomas! I had not hear of her nursery and the website is superb! I will spend some time on it. Cheers, Gregg
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#9 of 9 posted
14 DEC by
ThomasR
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