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While this rose may benefit from some shade in a relentlessly sunny clime, it did terribly with only Eastern exposure and afternoon shade from all sides in my Zone 6 loamy base clay. It is prone to BS here even in full sun, but it's tolerable. This rose is definitely better grown as a climber as its canes are lax. In any case, this allows the gorgeous, fragrant flowers to be seen up close. It was completely cane hardy at the limits of a Z6 winter with -7F for multiple nights and days in the single digits.
2023: Thought I would update after an unusually harsh winter. Same -7F temp, but relentless winds with windchill reaching at least -40F for a couple of nights at different times. It was killed to the ground, but I believe is making a come-back. Ill report later in the season.This was my experience with many formerly hardy roses so I would Not call him a wimp, just not a superhero.
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16 APR 22 by
Gdisaz10
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it tends to lose a lot of buds with heavy rains
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Thought I would update after an unusually harsh winter. Same -7F temp, but relentless winds with windchill reaching at least -40F for a couple of nights at to different times. It was killed to the ground, but I believe is making a come-back. Ill report later in the season.This was my experience with many formerly hardy roses so I would call him a wimp, just not a superhero!
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30 MAY by
JoeyT
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Sidonie has fantastic winter survival in my zone 4 garden, needing no pruning this spring, and is covered in buds! Last year it had good repeat throughout the summer and fall even though it was a first year plant. It is sprawling wider than it is tall but is maintaining a tidy shape without throwing random long canes. The bloom form is adorable and the fragrance is exceptional. This is one of my favorite cold zone roses.
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this rose, even in my garden, has turned out to be a jewel!
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10 JUN by
JoeyT
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That's awesome :) I don't know why Sidonie isn't more popular, she's just adorable.
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I honestly don't know. It is a rose that remains small, but whoever discovers it hardly separates from it.
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Can someone who has grown both roses compare this rose to Munstead Wood please? Just wondering if I really 'need' both!
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2000 was a weak grower for me. Munstead was not.
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Hi Robert, thanks so much, that is interesting. Munstead Wood does have healthy thick stems for me.
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Health and vigor depend on many variables, like climate, choice of rootstock, and or growing own-root.
2000 was a better grower than Austin's original, 'William Shakespeare', but marketed over twenty years ago.
Austin is constantly working to improve introductions.
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In my hot humid climate Munstead Wood looks better, also Falstaff. William S.2000 suffers from blackspot every summer. I would say the description of very disease resistant is incorrect as the rose is very susceptible to black spot
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Is this rose better than Reve d'or?
repeat flowering?
Fragrance?
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I consider this an excellent landscape rose for a suitable climate. The blooms are tiny but come in huge clusters and they look well against the healthy green foliage. For me, this was an absolutely no care rose. Every once in a while I would cut off the big pannicles of old flowers because I tend to get obsessive about dead heading.
I have not grown 'Reve d'Or'. It does have a much more spectacular flower than Aimee.
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9 APR 17 by
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in my climate it should have no problem, I hope smells a bit and have a good repeat flowering
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Yes, good repeat, yes nice scent.
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I like Reve d'Or better; the flowers have both a better color and more fragrance. And fewer thorns!
Alister Stella blooms fade a lot in the intense heat of coastal SE Virginia.
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thanks for your impressions
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