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Initial post 16 MAY by Just-one-more-rose
Would anyone who has roses with different fragrances, care to describe the blue moon fragrance? (e.g. for many other roses I see fruity, citrusy, lemony, tea, damask, sweet, old rose and so forth), but for blue moon, HMF merely says 'strong, opinions vary' - I'd love to hear more detail on the blue moon fragrance, if anyone can. Thank you
Reply #1 of 7 posted 16 MAY by Lavenderlace
I can't wait to hear your answers! I should have some Blue Moon arriving soon and if the fragrance is anything like Twice in a Blue Moon, then I will be thrilled. I find it hard to describe that one though, because it is different from the others to my nose, simply lovely wafting in the vase. Not tea, not damask, not lemon, not old rose to me.
Reply #2 of 7 posted 3 OCT by Plazbo
Curious as well. Trying to find a pale mauve/silver/grey (aka as "blue" as possible) with decent health, available in australia and not being citrusy scented seems a task too hard at the moment.
Reply #3 of 7 posted 3 OCT by Andrew from Dolton
I have grown 'Blue Moon', 'Blue Moon climbing' and 'Twice in a Blue Moon'. 'Blue Moon climbing' gives one good display but it only ever flowered once for me. IMO 'Twice in a Blue Moon' is a better plant than 'Blue Moon', it repeats better and has slightly bigger flowers. To my nose they all have a wonderful strong Damask fragrance but with fresher citrus notes as well, unfortunately they won't grow well in my climate and I have given-up trying to make them happy. For blueness I grow 'Reine des Violettes', 'Bleu Magenta' and 'Baby Faurax'.
I can remember my grandmother growing 'Blue Moon' in the early '70s when it was new on the market and I was small enough to be dwarfed by a Hybrid-Tea. Everyone agreed it had strong perfume but I couldn't understand why the adults were so excited about it being "blue", the emperor's new clothes.
Reply #4 of 7 posted 3 OCT by Plazbo
I agree that calling them blue is stretching it but it's what people call them. 'Twice in a Blue Moon' isn't here in Australia otherwise I'd be looking at it more closely.

I have Baby Faurax it's more purple than I'm looking for. Gra's Blue (also have) has a colour that's along the lines I'm looking at (it just has a strong citrus scent). Was looking at Moon Shadow but not available. It's a lot of citrus or obvious health issues.
Reply #5 of 7 posted 3 OCT by Lavenderlace
In my southern Z8, sandy soil, own-root Blue Moon hasn't compared favorably at all with Twice in a Blue Moon. Not in vigor, fragrance, wafting ability, bloom size, number of blooms, or frequency of blooming. One criticism of "Twice" could be how large the bushes get, requiring several prunings during growing season to keep the size down but the trade-off was seven inch blooms before the excessive heat set in.

Blue Moon has a pleasant fragrance though, and surely it will get stronger as they get older. I'm comparing their performances to each other though at the same age.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 9 days ago by Plazbo
I'd say it's sweet and citrusy...but not in the strong lemony way a lot of mauves/lavendars are.

I think the opinions vary part may be due to the flowers not being consistently fragrant. While my plant is new, it's had a few spikes, some flowers have been more fragrant than others.
Reply #7 of 7 posted 9 days ago by Andrew from Dolton
It reminds me of that slightly grapefruity smell that Magnolia grandiflora has.
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Initial post 23 JUL by Lavenderlace
Sheila's Perfume has been performing much better than expected in an extended period of 110+ temperatures in southern Z8, no-spray. Still blooming with daily watering, very nice fragrance.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 14 days ago by BenT_TX
Thanks for the info, LL! I heard mixed reviews of how this one does in the heat, good to know it’s doing well for you in a similar climate to mine.
most recent 7 OCT SHOW ALL
Initial post 27 SEP 16 by swish
I just bought a baby own root Reconciliation at a club meeting, and it is finally started blooming this fall! The blooms are quite lovely with a matching sweet peach like scent. I'm really looking forward to seeing this little guy mature!
Reply #1 of 1 posted 7 OCT by Lavenderlace
I realize that this is an old post, but if you are still checking in, how is your Reconciliation doing? Thanks!
most recent 28 SEP SHOW ALL
Initial post 13 SEP by Andrew from Dolton
Hello Maryellen,
Does your 'New Dawn' show any signs of a second flush this year?
Regards, Andrew.
Reply #1 of 9 posted 13 SEP by happymaryellen
No darnit....After reading so many people having the same problem I think I’m gonna take it out this winter I wanted to repeat with her on this fence. I guess it’s a live and learn right?
Reply #2 of 9 posted 13 SEP by Marlorena
No luck then Andrew... I'm feeling a whole lot better that it was nothing to do with me... thanks for asking around here...
Reply #3 of 9 posted 13 SEP by Andrew from Dolton
Thanks Maryellen. My plant only stopped repeating when I moved it and now it competes with a cut leafed elder. Maybe it needs more food and moisture to flower well although it has made some very long growths. Interesting to look at other pictures of 'New Dawn' grown in warmer countries. The flowers are quite a bit pinker than mine which looks white at a distance, the same colour as 'Madame Alfred Carrière'.
Marlorena, there was a light ground frost in my garden this morning.
Reply #4 of 9 posted 13 SEP by Marlorena
Andrew, I wondered if you might have had one because I know you're in a pocket there...... it dropped to 5C here last night... I've had the heating on...
Reply #5 of 9 posted 13 SEP by Andrew from Dolton
I knew we were in for a cold night yesterday evening because the moors, about 20KM away, were absolutely crystal clear and the sky rich blue.
Reply #7 of 9 posted 28 SEP by Andrew from Dolton
Just for your information, every night so far this week there have been frosts. Tuesday was the worst with a glass of water left out over night almost a chunk of solid ice and nasturtium leaves reduced to old dish rags. And not just confined to my garden, collecting my partner from work each morning I need to scrape the car and there was frost in all the fields, Hatherleigh cricket pitch was completely white and Dartmoor an island poking out from a misty shroud. I now light a fire every evening. These misty mornings are followed by the most glorious blue skied sunny days with a temperature yesterday of 20C, such a precious bonus at this time of year. I wouldn't change my climate for all the tea (roses) in China.
Reply #8 of 9 posted 28 SEP by Marlorena
We had a slight frost the other night Andrew, and maybe again tonight... you are obviously in quite a frost pocket there... yes I too appreciate changeable seasons... 'Mme. Antoine Mari' is a first class Tea rose for me, it competes with anything I've got, or have had... but probably a rarity amongst this class for us... but I know what you mean...
I had a 'Nerine' open today, about a month early...
Reply #9 of 9 posted 28 SEP by Lavenderlace
Andrew, our heat index was near 100 F a few days ago and we just received record rain again. A "cold" front has moved through and we've cooled off a bit but I'm sure that you would find it laughable to call it cool! In any case, all the New Dawns remain without buds.
Reply #6 of 9 posted 13 SEP by Lavenderlace
Yes, thanks Andrew for asking around! I can't believe that I have so many of them now with what appears to be no hope.

There is a lady in Ohio who says hers is quite old, like 80 years, and it reblooms. So based on hers, HMF ratings, and the Heirloom website, I was hopeful. But now I'm wondering, because of the age, what if she doesn't have ND after all? I believe that she's younger than eighty!
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