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most recent 5 JUN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 5 JUN by JuniperAnn
My ‘The Gift’ is about a year old and is trying to take over the world. It’s mostly 1’H x 9’W, but a few canes are trying to climb nearby perennials and are 4’H. It’s either self-layered or root-suckered once, but most of that width is the mother plant.

So far, it’s been a survivor. It’s tolerated the drought and horrible heat of La Niña better than many plants, with only occasional, stingy supplemental watering. It suffered a bit in the worst of the drought, but has mostly been very healthy and clean. It’s in dry shade, at the darker end of partial shade. It didn’t bloom last year, but I hardly expected it to do so in so much shade. I just wanted it to get established before I cut down a nearby tree.

The self-propagated plant is in more sun than the mother plant, and it’s blooming. The flowers are pretty against the dark green foliage and self-clean nicely. They have a lovely smell, but it doesn’t waft and if the plant stays so short, I probably won’t be crawling on the ground to smell the flowers much.

So far, I’m pleased but a little bit worried. I’ll have to see how much effort it takes to keep this thing from taking over my whole garden.
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most recent 12 MAR 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 9 OCT 20 by JuniperAnn
After 3-4 years, I shovel-pruned this one. Too much disease, not enough blooms, too thorny.

I live in the humid subtropics of the Gulf Coast (zone 9a), and have neutral-pH, heavy clay soil, which I moderately amend with expanded shale or coarse sand for my roses. I top-dress my roses 1-2 times per year with about 2 inches of mulch. Earlier this year, I gave her a fertilizer spike.

I got Colette at an end-of-season sale. I kept her in a 15-gallon tub for the first year and a half. There's heavy fungal disease pressure here, especially with blackspot, and I don't treat. Colette was worse than most of my roses (which, to be fair to her, I mostly only grow roses with a strong reputation for disease resistance). She tended to get black spot unless in the PERFECT amount of sun. Part shade in the cooler half of the year? Blackspot within a week. Full sun in summer? Black spot within a week. Of course, EVERYTHING gets blackspot in August, but I don't worry about that too much. I moved her pot around several times per year, chasing the perfect amount of sun. Then I planted her in part shade (only the toughest of roses can handle full sun here).

I don't want to slander poor Colette. She is not a total, diseased mess. She never defoliates or loses canes to disease. I never fear that she'll die. She's pretty vigorous. But her leaves and canes just never look nice. There's always some minor cosmetic disease going on with them.

Untrained, she grows in a low fountain shape about 3'H X 8'W, with a good number of long canes that grow up for a bit, and then sideways for a while, and only modest branching. The shape can look rather nice planted among low shrubs with the canes snaking between her neighbors.

She puts out about 5-8 medium-sized apricot blooms in early- to mid-spring, with a nice fragrance of classic rose + Earl Gray tea. She's more fragrant than most roses, but like most fragrant roses, the smell does not waft. She shuts down blooming by April, and then gives another 1-5 blooms in fall. If untrained, she only blooms on the ends of her canes.

But training? No thank you. Never tried it, never will. She has big, sharp, abundant thorns--sort of in the 'New Dawn' category of thorniness. When I prune her, I only lift the canes by the leaves because there's nowhere to put my hands on the canes without hurting myself. The thorns were the deal-breaker. Sorry, Colette. Not for me.

She'd probably be a lovely rose in a cooler climate for someone who is more willing to use heavy rose gauntlets to properly train her.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 12 MAR 22 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
thank you for an excellent review. I have heavy & dense black clay. What are the roses that do well in your clay? Thank you.
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most recent 12 FEB 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 14 APR 20 by newtie
A dreadful disaster in my gulf coadt zone 8b hot .humid. I have tried to kill mine for years but refuses to die . insists on putting out a naked stick with a bloom on the end once in a while. Do not plant in this climate. The Austin Rose, Gertrude Jekyll , is genetically related can't be told apart same everything including fragrance and vigorous here. Especially on fortuniana root stock.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 5 OCT 20 by JuniperAnn
Exactly this in coastal 9A!
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 12 FEB 22 by Seaside Rooftop
Is anyone growing this rose successfully in a hot climate?
I am in Malta, zone 11 (coastal).
I am reading these reviews and thinking I made a mistake by getting Comte.
The ratings are not so great for heat tolerance, so I was thinking of putting him in bright shade, but the ratings also say he doesn't do well in shade either.
Is this just a rose for cold climates?
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most recent 24 DEC 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 DEC 21 by JuniperAnn
I live in Zone 9a, Gulf Coast.

This is my MOST shade-tolerant rose. More shade-tolerant than The Fairy. More shade-tolerant than the Knock Out roses. It bloomed all winter in a spot with only about 2 hours of sun per day. However, if you do grow it in shade, the blooms will be hot pink. It has no fragrance, and I don’t love hot pink, so I’m going to tuck it in a spot in the back of my yard where few other things will bloom.
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