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StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
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Initial post 28 AUG 17 by Michael Garhart
I thought I early reviewed this one.

Good grower. A little tall for a floribunda, but okay. Lots of blooms. Great color, scent. It's pretty good.

Cons: I saw a lot of BS on it locally. Not really other diseases. Although with Crystalline in its immediate background, I worry about winter tenderness. Neptune was hammered into 2" nubs last winter, and its Zone 8b here, and Blueberry Hill was the same. Blackened canes to the ground. Which is too bad. They're gorgeous :[
Reply #1 of 6 posted 28 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
You are right about Neptune .. almost buy that as own-root for my zone 5a, but after spending time checking, folks in zone 6b reported Neptune could not even survive 1st winter as own-root.
Reply #2 of 6 posted 28 AUG 17 by Michael Garhart
Crystalline and Angel face lineages strike again. Notoriously tender critters.

Which is too bad, as Neptune is one of the most gorgeous roses to ever exist...
Reply #3 of 6 posted 28 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Angel Face died in my zone 5a winter both as OWN-ROOT and Grafted-on-Dr.Huey. I don't miss it, not enough petals for my liking. I hope to buy Flying Kiss, a purple climber.
Reply #4 of 6 posted 29 AUG 17 by Michael Garhart
It's supposedly good. 'Golden Eye' is super hardy. 'Ebb Tide' is hardier than most mauves, although its obviously no zone 4 rose, but still much hardier than its kin.
Reply #5 of 6 posted 29 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you. Got to look up "Golden Eye".
Reply #6 of 6 posted 1 SEP by kgs
It's now September and Violet's Pride hasn't shown any BS or other disease whatsoever. It's a good climate (Sonoma County, CA) but some of my other plants have a touch of BS here and there--this one, nothing. Very pleased with this one.
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Initial post 21 JUL 09 by Lucretia
This rose didn't even last long enough to bloom in my garden. I've replaced it with "Sweet Pea", which is very new, but seems more vigorous already.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 29 MAR 11 by Anita silicon valley
My Aunt Margy's came as a small plant which I'm growing up in a pot, using organic fertilizers. It is about 1 ft x 1 ft and always has about 5 buds and / or open very fragrant blossoms. It even bloomed during our chilly rainy Winter with no disease. I live in the San Francisco area. It seems easier to grow up than some other polyanthas.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 13 JUN 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thanks for the info. I keep that in mind for my next Burlington roses order.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 26 AUG by jmile
This rose is doing great in my garden. Always has flowers even in our hot summers in zone 9B.
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Initial post 10 JUN 16 by BroCad
This is year four for LEH in my garden. I have loved her from the beginning, even through an early scare with spider mites that took half of her in the first year before I knew what was happening. Since then she has not only recovered, but spread to around four feet in width and a height of around three feet. She gave me two new canes last year and another this spring. She is currently covered in buds, having opened only two flowers so far, which puts her as my latest of the returning roses. She vies with Munstead Wood as my most floriferous rose. Beautifully complex color range, intoxicating citrus fragrance, beautiful dainty, bronze new foliage, and little disease, usually confined to a bit of BS going into the fall. I understand some have had trouble wintering her in Northern Ohio, but I have her in a very sheltered spot where, with no special protection, she has come through two very fierce winters (those immediately preceeding this last very mild winter) with die-back to the snowline and a quick recovery. Outstanding rose in all respects.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 1 JUN 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Is you LEH grafted, or is it own-root, thanks for any info. I prefer own-root, but a few people reported its being weak as own-root for cold zone.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 24 AUG by Lavenderlace
Mine are own-root but have continually bloomed through very high heat (over 110 F) for extended periods with daily watering in fast draining sandy soil. The size of the plant has stayed smaller than most Austins here in southern Z8, thankfully, with very nice foliage.
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Initial post 23 MAR 16 by drossb1986
I have mixed feelings on Twilight Zone. From what I had read, it should be an all-star. However, I haven't found it to be the case. TZ has been resistant to disease so far, and it has been very healthy. The bush has bloomed a lot, but the coloring of my bush doesn't seem to match what I frequently see photos of. I don't get the dusky, dark purple. Mine always turn out more of a brighter purple. While the blooms smell lovely, they don't seem to last that long on the plant. One day the rose looks nice on the bush, and the next day the ground is littered with petals. I'm hoping I'm happier with TZ when it grows and fills out more, but right now I'm on the fence with it. I may be in the minority on it, however.

August 2016 Update: TZ is not a rose for hot, sunny days in Texas. The blooms fry to a crisp in anything above 90 degrees. That doesn't mean TZ doesn't try to bloom in the heat, but they just don't survive. I've also found the growth habit of TZ to be strange and leggy, flopping over into other bushes nearby. Although, it's been 100% clean and healthy with no disease issues. I don't plan on shovel-pruning it this year, but I don't think I would purchase this rose again hindsight being 20/20.
Reply #1 of 4 posted 28 APR 17 by Plazbo
I'm in the same boat. It doesn't seem to live up to the hype. I don't find it to be a significant improvement over Ebb Tide, it (TZ) has more petals but that's a preference that isn't universal, other than that though I find the fragrance and colour of Ebb Tide to be better.

It's not a bad rose but with Ebb Tide (probably it's main competition given the unusual qualities are mostly shared) being readily available I'd always pick it over TZ.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 24 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Fantastic reviews. THANK YOU. So glad I didn't buy Twilight zone, although I was tempted. A friend in my zone 5a informed me that GRAFTED Twilight zone died to the crown (only root survives) through our winter. Hers was grafted on Dr. Huey.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 14 JUL 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Bought Twilight-Zone as OWN-ROOT. Survived 1st zone 5a winter. Bush-shape is round & full & less-thorn. Deep-purple in my alkaline clay. Very healthy but light clove scent. Blooms well in partial shade. 2nd year, the scent improves with acidic rain, and it's finally pleasant to sniff.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 11 AUG by Nola Z5
I planted two Twilight Zone bushes here in zone 5a, one in 2015 and one in 2017 that I purchased from a local hardware store. I don't know if they're own root or grafted but they both have done wonderfully through our winters in southern Wisconsin. I mound with mushroom compost and then mulch after the first hard frost. They bloom very well in the spring and scattered blooms throughout the summer, and now in August, another very prolific flush. The color is a deep purple and the fragrance is a wonderful clove. Minimal BS in the fall. This is a rose I would definitely have to have in my garden. It's beautiful right next to Lady of Shalott.
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