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Karin Schade
most recent 9 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 9 DEC by Karin Schade
This should be the Florists Rose
Reply #1 of 1 posted 9 DEC by Patricia Routley
Thank you Karin. It does look like it, Photo reassigned to Coffee Break (florists rose, Tantau 2006)
most recent 1 DEC SHOW ALL
Initial post 22 MAR 20 by ThomasR
This bud have the same color than the Loubert pictures,3/mme-lemesle,994129.html , but the open flower is of a much brighter red ! Are these recent ? I was surprised that I mentionned an old rose and you just have it in your garden, so by any chance do you have that rose called Etendard de Jeanne d'Arc ? I've read on the forum it could be the same as Thomasville Lamarque.
Reply #1 of 4 posted 22 MAR 20 by Karin Schade
No, sorry ;-).
Reply #2 of 4 posted 23 MAR 20 by ThomasR
There is not a lot of pictures about this rose but this is one I would have liked to see grow. The one I purchased was actually offered because it was in fragile shape. It seems to be dead now. I will directly ask the members who posted photos of that rose, thanks !
Reply #3 of 4 posted 1 DEC by ThomasR
Hello Karin,
I sent you a private message earlier this year concerning a rose that I would like to identify. I know you do research on Alba's so your opinion might be useful ! The rose I suspect to be an alba was planted a long time ago in my great-grandparents'garden. They are deceased and no one can give me any information about this rose, except that my great grandfather grew it from a cutting. It is slender, about 1.6 meter I think, and it's simple blooms were synchronized with my Alba Suaveolens last year. It has some scent, but lighter than Suaveolens. Here are some pictures, Thank you, best regards, Thomas.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 1 DEC by ThomasR
Oh thank you Karin for your Laxa suggestion ! Maybe it's time for me to educate about species roses. In a way, the answer was just under my feet. I thought this rose really looked like an alba, with its buds especially, hips, stamens, thin, slightly bending downards prickles... I will read more about Laxa rootstock, the pictures I saw showed arching but also less leggy bushes, with more ample foliage. Do you think the Gudhem rose may also be a Laxa, or that a simple flower alba could actually exist ? Thank you for your help, best regards, Thomas.
most recent 21 MAR 20 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 21 MAR 20 by ThomasR
Hello Karin, there are two pictures on the Roses Loubert site of a hybrid perpetual called Mme Lemesle, 1890 that remind me of your photo.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 21 MAR 20 by Karin Schade
Oh, thank you! I´ve got Mme Lemesle in my rosepark, too. I got it from the Europa Rosarium Sangerhausen. I´m not sure, if it could be the same, but I will have a look! Mme Lemesle is very small, Petersen dunkelrote RH is nearly vigourous if you would compare them. But, it could also be different soil or condition, so I will have a look. ;-)
Reply #2 of 2 posted 21 MAR 20 by ThomasR
You're welcome !
most recent 26 JAN 20 SHOW ALL
Initial post 15 APR 13 by paani
Available from - Vintage Gardens
Reply #1 of 8 posted 15 APR 13 by HMF Admin
thank you
Reply #2 of 8 posted 4 MAY 13 by paani
you're welcome. Sadly, this looks to be one of so many that will not be available anywhere in the US after Vintage Gardens closes up shop.
Reply #3 of 8 posted 4 MAY 13 by Tessie
It may not even be available now in the US. I bought one from Vintage, but the provenance is sadly lacking. The id seems to be no more than a guess. From what I've seen so far it does not seem to fit the historical descriptions. For one thing it would be quite a stretch to call any of its flowers lemon yellow. The blooms look white with perhaps a touch of creme, but there ain't no yellow! Not even when the flowers first open, whether in full sun or shade.

Reply #4 of 8 posted 15 SEP 14 by Karin Schade
The roses named Alberic Barbier, La perle and Francois Foucard I bought or I have seen somewhere else seem to be the same roses - in my Rosenpark Reinhausen they ARE the same.
Reply #5 of 8 posted 23 MAY 18 by rbehs
I have the version of François Foucard that Vintage sold. It has red stamens. They are yellow on my version of La Perle.
Reply #6 of 8 posted 26 JAN 20 by AlanaSC
How do you like this rose? Hard to find any information on it. Thanks!!
Reply #7 of 8 posted 26 JAN 20 by rbehs
It's very vigorous. I had to move it several years ago because it was taking over the front of my house. It's still recovering in my back yard, but I'm thinking this year will finally be another good year for it.
Reply #8 of 8 posted 26 JAN 20 by AlanaSC
Thank you!!
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