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Karin Schade 
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This should be the Florists Rose
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Thank you Karin. It does look like it, Photo reassigned to Coffee Break (florists rose, Tantau 2006)
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This bud have the same color than the Loubert pictures https://www.pepiniere-rosesloubert.com/catalogue,3/mme-lemesle,994129.html , but the open flower is of a much brighter red ! Are these recent ? I was surprised that I mentionned an old rose and you just have it in your garden, so by any chance do you have that rose called Etendard de Jeanne d'Arc ? I've read on the forum it could be the same as Thomasville Lamarque.
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#2 of 4 posted
23 MAR by
ThomasR
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There is not a lot of pictures about this rose but this is one I would have liked to see grow. The one I purchased was actually offered because it was in fragile shape. It seems to be dead now. I will directly ask the members who posted photos of that rose, thanks !
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#3 of 4 posted
1 DEC by
ThomasR
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Hello Karin,
I sent you a private message earlier this year concerning a rose that I would like to identify. I know you do research on Alba's so your opinion might be useful ! The rose I suspect to be an alba was planted a long time ago in my great-grandparents'garden. They are deceased and no one can give me any information about this rose, except that my great grandfather grew it from a cutting. It is slender, about 1.6 meter I think, and it's simple blooms were synchronized with my Alba Suaveolens last year. It has some scent, but lighter than Suaveolens. Here are some pictures, Thank you, best regards, Thomas.
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#4 of 4 posted
1 DEC by
ThomasR
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Oh thank you Karin for your Laxa suggestion ! Maybe it's time for me to educate about species roses. In a way, the answer was just under my feet. I thought this rose really looked like an alba, with its buds especially, hips, stamens, thin, slightly bending downards prickles... I will read more about Laxa rootstock, the pictures I saw showed arching but also less leggy bushes, with more ample foliage. Do you think the Gudhem rose may also be a Laxa, or that a simple flower alba could actually exist ? Thank you for your help, best regards, Thomas.
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Hello Karin, there are two pictures on the Roses Loubert site of a hybrid perpetual called Mme Lemesle, 1890 that remind me of your photo.
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Oh, thank you! I´ve got Mme Lemesle in my rosepark, too. I got it from the Europa Rosarium Sangerhausen. I´m not sure, if it could be the same, but I will have a look! Mme Lemesle is very small, Petersen dunkelrote RH is nearly vigourous if you would compare them. But, it could also be different soil or condition, so I will have a look. ;-)
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#2 of 2 posted
21 MAR by
ThomasR
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15 APR 13 by
paani
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Available from - Vintage Gardens
http://vintagegardens.com/roses.aspx?cat_id=29
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#2 of 8 posted
4 MAY 13 by
paani
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you're welcome. Sadly, this looks to be one of so many that will not be available anywhere in the US after Vintage Gardens closes up shop.
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#3 of 8 posted
4 MAY 13 by
Tessie
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It may not even be available now in the US. I bought one from Vintage, but the provenance is sadly lacking. The id seems to be no more than a guess. From what I've seen so far it does not seem to fit the historical descriptions. For one thing it would be quite a stretch to call any of its flowers lemon yellow. The blooms look white with perhaps a touch of creme, but there ain't no yellow! Not even when the flowers first open, whether in full sun or shade.
Melissa
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The roses named Alberic Barbier, La perle and Francois Foucard I bought or I have seen somewhere else seem to be the same roses - in my Rosenpark Reinhausen they ARE the same.
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#5 of 8 posted
23 MAY 18 by
rbehs
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I have the version of François Foucard that Vintage sold. It has red stamens. They are yellow on my version of La Perle.
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#6 of 8 posted
26 JAN by
AlanaSC
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How do you like this rose? Hard to find any information on it. Thanks!!
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#7 of 8 posted
26 JAN by
rbehs
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It's very vigorous. I had to move it several years ago because it was taking over the front of my house. It's still recovering in my back yard, but I'm thinking this year will finally be another good year for it.
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#8 of 8 posted
26 JAN by
AlanaSC
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