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Martin Vissers 
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"Rosa arvensis plena" rose Photos: the 2 photos by David Elliott are absolutely no photos of rosa arvensis plena. Color and form are completely different.
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These were 2012 photos. It is interesting to look also at David's 2006 photo, also taken in Japan.
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#2 of 6 posted
3 OCT 18 by
jedmar
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There seem to be 3 different roses under the same name.
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On David Elliott's 2006 photo from Japan you can just about see a bud poking from behind the flower at about the 9 o'clock position. Apart from the colour it appears to have smooth sepals, the other pictures show sepals completely different. Arvensis should be smooth.
Shouldn't it be described as a sport and the name be written as Rosa arvensis 'Plena'?
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#4 of 6 posted
3 OCT 18 by
jedmar
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We do not know whether it is a sport or a hybrid.
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It seems to me that the photos taken in Japan are actually the Ayrshire rose 'Splendens', and not Rosa arvensis 'Plena'.
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#6 of 6 posted
21 DEC by
jedmar
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Very probable. We will check with the Sakura rose garden.
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Soroptimist Women's Voice is the same as VISmelgo / Lions Charity.
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Thank you Martin. Files merged.
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Please delete in the page of VISeureye, Persian Dawn the 2 other incorrect names: New Dawn and Belgium Down
Thanks
Martin Vissers
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#1 of 1 posted
25 OCT by
jedmar
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These incorrect names are mentioned in publications and on websites, so we need to list them, as otherwise our members will not be able to find the rose. However, we have moved these two names to "hidden" so that the correct name is the only one visible.
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Please delete the page of VISechdam. This is the variety name of "Perfume Dreams", already in HMF.
Best regards
Martin Vissers
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#1 of 1 posted
24 OCT by
jedmar
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Thank you for the information. We have merged the two listings.
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