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Roses, Clematis and Peonies
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Marita Protte
most recent 1 MAY HIDE POSTS
Initial post 1 MAY by Marita Protte
There are two found roses, one from Finland (Pikkala), one from Germany (Johannes Jena). I grow both roses in the rosegarden of Trostberg and they are completely identical. I'm becoming more and more convinced that this rose may be the lost centifolia D'Auteuil.
C. Nickels describes D'Auteuil 1845 in his book; Cultur, Benennung und Beschreibung der Rosen, on page 50 as:
"Prächtig, guten Geruch. Blkre. lebhaft und stark rosenrot, oder bläulich rosenroth, zu Zeiten etwas punktiert, bei 4 gefüllt, abgeplattet gebaut; Stamm, Stblätter. und Dorne, sind mehr jenen der gallischen Rosen ähnlich."
This discription matches with my studies of the roses. Who ever is interested and wants to compare the found rose with the descriptions of D'Auteuil can view the page on hmf about "Pikkala", or visit our Rosegarden in Trostberg Bavaria.
most recent 5 JUL 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 5 JUL 18 by Marita Protte
Hallo Marcir, hast Du nach wie vor die "Margherita Croze" in Deinem Garten? Meine musste vor zwei Jahren wegen Umbauarbeiten "ausgelagert" werden und hat diesen Umzug nicht überlebt. Heute habe ich Nachricht von Sangerhausen bekommen, dass deren "Margherita Croze" der Trockenheit zum Opfer gefallen ist. Jetzt hoffe ich, dass Deine wenigstens noch lebt.
Lieben Gruss

most recent 10 AUG 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 10 AUG 17 by jedmar
This rose was believed extinct. What is ist origin? A reversion?
Reply #1 of 1 posted 10 AUG 17 by Marita Protte
Yes, I know. I'm still not sure if it is a reversion or the original. There is a connection between the place I've found it and Josephine.
most recent 17 JUN 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 17 JUN 17 by Marita Protte
I would like to call your attention on Joris or Georg Hoefnagel and his 1594 „Flower still life with insects“. In 1594 Hoefnagel lived in Frankfurt on the Main, from there he went to Prague and Vienna. I think he was the first who painted a true-to-life picture of Rosa x francofurtana, only 11 years after Clusius’ discription of the rose.
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