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'Zéphirine Drouhin' rose Reviews & Comments
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Is this rose fertile? As a pollen parent maybe?
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Are you using HelpMeFind's LINEAGE facility? It is all there.
I would say that it is not fertile. Two of the four 1st generation descendants are "probably" and "parentage uncertain". That leaves just two - since 1868.
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Yes. I use all the features. I just wonder if anyone has experience with it.
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This rose has been mostly considered a bourbon, but I have read a few books that say this may be a cross between a bourbon and a boursalt. This would account for its ploidy, as well as its thornlessness and reddish canes. Additionally, this rose does not rebloom as well as a bourbon would. It has a very sparse rebloom pattern when it does rebloom, which is also similar to a boursalt. Just an interesting thought.
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#1 of 5 posted
29 JAN 17 by
 Jay-Jay
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It repeats flowering constantly in my garden, in contrary to what You state.
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Interesting. I wonder if there are a few of these going around. I get a spring flush and ocasionally a flower here and there.
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#3 of 5 posted
29 JAN 17 by
Jay-Jay
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I got my own root specimen from IlGiardinodeipigri, see the photo's of his plant, for instance:
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.190308
And all the other photo's he uploaded January 5 2012
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In the U.K. too it flushes throughout the season often flowering early and continuing late with the autumn flowers a much richer colour. Perhaps it needs moisture to do well and does not like to dry out too much in summer. Not a rose I grow myself but one I have grown for various other people in a range of different environments, it does not need a lot of sun but does not like over head shade. It is very prone to rust.
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That, about needing moisture, was my experience growing both ZD and the sport Kathleen Harrop, lovely soft pink version, in hot and dry CA. Gorgeous spring flush, BUT, only during those years when there had been a wet winter, and sporadic bloom at all other times. I would say that Mme. Zephrine and her sport progeny are not desert roses. OTOH, SLDM and her sports thrived in my hot and dry conditions, and seemed to need remarkably small amounts of summer irrigation.
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I was up at "The Shambles" the other week (Montville, Queensland, sub-tropical) and their 'Zéphirine Drouhin' is doing quite nicely after they moved it. Seems to be fine without spraying as long as it gets sun and air. Mildew is generally not seen around here though. Around there it's black spot that's the problem. ZD will get some, but not enough to bother it much if the location is good.
When I saw it, it was budding up for an autumn flush. Not covered in buds, but there seemed to be enough to make for a bit of fun, so I'd say it's remontant to some extent in this climate. I didn't ask how religious they were about deadheading.
Their roses don't get supplementary water, or hardly ever, as the house is on tanks so water is precious. The garden survives on rainwater only. I'm not sure about their feeding regime.
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Please see comments on photo posted by Kit 7-2-2014 regarding mildew susceptibility of this rose. Reply said the plants were troubled by mildew until they were well established so it is worth some degree of patience.
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